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Old 01-19-2014, 05:39 PM
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I will hopefully be finishing up my private pilot rating next month.

My question is, do you recommend I get my Multi engine rating before the Instrument Rating?

Can the multi engine time built during that rating count for the extra hours I need before I start the instrument rating?

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Old 01-19-2014, 05:44 PM
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30 hours minimum for a private multi. 40 hours minimum for an instrument. Which one is more expensive? Just saying.
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Old 01-19-2014, 07:13 PM
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Getting the instrument will make you a much safer and more comfortable pilot. It's very important. You should have it before your multi engine, unless you can do both at the same time.
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Get the instrument next! If you get the multi next you will still need to revisit the multi to demonstrate instrument competency in the twin; and study up on and get proficient in the twin, again... Get the instrument first; then while you are doing your multi training your instructor can incorporate the necessary instrument work into your training. When you take your multi ride the examiner will have you do the required instrument work so that at completion of a successful exam you will have your multi rating with instrument privileges. Single engine instrument privileges do not directly transfer to a multi engine aircraft. There was a time when they did, though that has been many years ago. The biggest deal is that your instructor and examiner need to see that you can handle the twin during IFR engine out situations/scenarios and all that goes with it, including the higher workload being single pilot IFR, Etc. Good luck!
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I agree get the instrument first. After that it really depends on how deep your pockets are, and what your future goals include. If money is not a problem get your instrument add on and after that, jump into the twin so you can bang out the multi add on. Airlines all want to see a lot of multi time so if that is where you want to end up, I would fly a twin as much as possible. Hope this helps.
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Old 01-21-2014, 10:55 AM
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30 hours minimum for a private multi. 40 hours minimum for an instrument. Which one is more expensive? Just saying.
30 hours is awful high for a multi add-on. Especially without IFR privileges. While I agree with others about getting the IFR ticket first, a private multi add-on should be able to be accomplished in about 5 hours in a sim and 10 hours in the plane.
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Way back, in the good ole days, when dinosaurs still ruled the earth, I got my private multi before going for my instrument rating. I rented an Apache, wet, for $60 bucks an hour.
The southwest sunshine allowed plenty of nice weather days to fly around & build multi time.
I can't say which way to go is better. I just wanted to fly a twin sooner.
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I did something similiar. PPL-ASEL, 15 hour Multi-Add on, then started IFR in the Cessna and finished it with the checkride in the Aztec. Checked both blocks and took a good chunk out of the 100 multi that seems to be the mark now.

I would advocate getting the multi-time early. Everyone has been saying to get the MEI and get a twin student, but those are few and far between. I say get as much as you can while you can then worry about building TT as a CFI.
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Assuming you are planning the professional route the most cost effective way would be to do your single instrument, single commercial then do the multi. That way one multi ride covers 3 ratings. Multiengine, multiengine instrument, and Commercial Multiengine.

However this will result in the least amount of multi time at the end, but that also means the least amount of duel instruction cost.
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My progression. Private, instrument, multi private, single commercial. Then shorty after my ME commercial. Despite having to basically do two multi checkrides, luckily with same examiner, for me it worked out well. I was flying with a private owner who was also a CFI. But instead of logging about 40 hours of dual recieved, I was able to log it PIC. Went to my first 135 interview with almost 60 ME pic. More money out of pocket but it worked out for me very well.

I agree with all these guys. Get your instrument first. Probably the most rewarding rating. Untill your shutting one down in multi.
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