Hawker445

I know the examiner will ask about 91, 119, maybe 121 and 135 stuff.

being able to explain the XC FPL in detail, complex aircraft systems yadi yada

anything else?

USMCFLYR

Your examiner is more thorough than mine was then (as far as I can remember!) I certainly didn't have to know any P119, 121, or 135 regs!

EasternATC

Expect many questions about what your privileges are with regard to compensation: who supplies the airplane, what the mission is, and so on. So yes, you do need to know something about Part 135.

Be able to do passable chandelles, lazy 8s, and eights-on-pylons. The rest of the flying is not unlike the PPL ride.

Hawker445

Yea i have heard it is more like the PPL checkride except the maneuvers. ( i love power off 180s) It took me my second try to hit my point. My instructor was quiet surprised since it was my 1st flight in the Arrow. ( i have 60hrs PIC in my dad's BE36. I got endorsed by my instructor back home so i can log PIC in complex and HP.) I thought it was quiet interesting when my instructor said people normally just start making the runway around their third flight.

The Examiner is a really chill guy. He flies for the state of UT and does geographical surveys, or something like that. The 2 examiners we have up here at USU are literally best friends.

I've been told that if you "bring a joke and a coke" the check ride will go smoothly. haha

SkylaneRG

Understand "holding out". Be sure you have a very good understanding what you can do WITH YOUR COMMERCIAL CERTIFICATE. I had to know very basic 135 stuff, like you fly people or boxes 135 but not 91 if it's advertised. Also we did a lot on MEL's and equipment failures (We left CHD without an operative nav light, and if we were to come back at night could we?) as well as different scenarios (my pax went deep sea scuba diving, could I take them?)

As far as the flight it was pretty easy. Remember to do a lot of clearing turns. I had two engine "failures" but no other failures. He asked me what I would do if I got lost without a VOR, GPS or sectional and I said well if I was super lost I guess 121.5 and he said "Well that would work but it's not an emergency yet... what is the other frequency you have committed to memory?" "122.0!". Overall, I thought the commercial ride was pretty easy especially compared to the instrument ride. It was probably easier than the private too.

JamesNoBrakes

Correct. The AC is not listed in "references" for that item.

Most examiners ask the questions about holding out, part 119, 135, etc, because, well, they were asked about it when they got their commercial, no other reason really. If someone failed on this, you'd have a pretty good case that holding out, common carriage and those subjects are not required knowledge and not grounds for failing a checkride. If you can't find the information in the references, it's not expected to be known. It is expected that there's information that may not be specifically listed in the PTS, but is in the references that you should know and be familiar with, but that's about as far as it's supposed to go. If there's no reference listed that includes the knowledge, it's not expected and the answers within the listed references are satisfactory.

I wouldn't advise to not study this, but it's not legitimate to ask questions about it. Unfortunately, it's an "accepted practice" by most DPEs. Again, if you were to fail on it, you would have pretty good grounds for a reversal, but you need to know the PTS in and out.

lstorm2003

Everything that will be on the check ride will be in the PTS. Its really that simple.

But.. There is something else that will make your ride easier... Confidence. Now that your doing your Chimerical checkride the DPE will be looking for you to show confidence and handle yourself in a professional manor.

Whenever I fly with someone new I can usually tell before we leave the ground if they are going to be able to fly the airplane well. Things like attitude, the way they communicate on the radio, the way they run through check lists are usually pretty reliable indicators.

Usually. Not always.

ArrJay

Be familiar with all airports in your area. Have a quick reference sheet with all needed frequencies or be able to quickly identify them on a vfr chart. My examiner diverted me to an airport I had never been to before. I got lucky and made my way there, but I wish that I was much more prepared.

Your check ride experience depends a lot on your examiner. The things emphasized on my check ride may not be covered at all in yours. Best Idea is to talk to someone who has done that ride with the same examiner you have (gouge) and get the most up-to-date info.

And although getting the 411 on your examiner is good to help you know what to expect. It won't make up for good old fashioned study.

Best of luck!

JathinB

All the tasks in the Practical Test Standards, nothing less and anything more can't hurt

Edit: and give extra attention to the items on the Special Emphasis Areas list

jasonlee

Luckily my examiner just asked me for some steep turns to base leg, asked some met questions and that was it. Nothing much complicated.