ATP Written Test Prep
 

Can anyone suggest a prep course for the ATP written?

Also, how important is it to employers to get a high score (90 or above).

Lastly to all you ATP's out there would you prefer to go to a ground school to prep you for the test or simply review the questions.

Thanks

I didn't/dont feel that a class for the written is important. Though it depends on the type of learner that you are. If it's a course where material is actually presented and explainded to you, and that's what you need then do one. If you can learn by memorizing clues then don't. ATP's written test prep class does exactly the later I just mentioned. For the money that you spend at ATP you can just do Sheppard Air. When I did mine I used Sheppard Air. I think that most people on here would suggest them. They're affordable and effective.

You're score is only as important as your examiner wants to make it.

I used both the Gleim and ASA test prep to prepare for the ATP written.
First I used the Gleim knowledge test prep book to study out from (I find it easier to study from a book rather than staring at a screen). Then I supplemented with the ASA software so I could run through all the questions several times. I chose to do the 135 ATP since I already had 135 experience.

Recently I used the Sheppard Air test prep to prepare for an airline interview and was quite impressed by their system. The only reason I didn't try them for the actual ATP is that they don't do a part 135 ATP prep.

Use Sheppard Air. Easy, Cheap, simple to use, and everyone I know (10+ mil buds) that used it got 90+ score only after a few days of study. It the same questions as all the other vendors, however its "how' the program makes you study is the key to why its minimal study time/high score product. Going to a ground class would be a total waste of time and money if you just need to get a high score....now if you ACTUALLY want to learn the how/why of ATP knowledge...then go to a ATP ground school or use read an ATP book.

ATP Written Test Prep
 

I used the ASA ATP book. I used their website to buy 5 practice exams for $15. I started studying on a Friday and took the exam that Monday. Got an 89. I also took the 135 exam.

ATP Written Test Prep
 

Got 100 percent from Sheppaird Air the first time , expired then took it again and got a 98 .... Only way to go

Don't know how important it is, but I was asked my score.

I recommend Sheppard as well.....if you score less than a 90% you are entitled to a refund.

Most employers and airlines don't really care about your test score.

Sheppard Air. Worked great, well structured. I got an 86% with minimal studying and easily got my money back.

I used the Sheppard Air program on my iPad. Very easy to use and you can use it even when you don't have an internet connection. My job took me away from flying for just under 5 years, so this spring I dove back into the books to knock all the cobwebs off the brain. I bought the FOI and FIA study guides, and scored a 98 (FOI) and 94(FIA). Both were $40 each. Just follow the directions and you will be fine. I did about an hour a night for five nights on each one, then took the test on day 6.

They also tell you not to change your answers when taking the actual test. Listen to them. I changed two answers on my written (which I never do), and I changed both to the wrong answer when I had originally selected the correct answer. Good luck!

I second that for Sheppard. It was the best for me

Do you want to just pass the exam or do you want to understand the material?

That's the reason for the first time since I was studying for my private, I bought an ASA book today. But what can ya do? I may buy the Dauntless app since I have an iTunes gift card, but I'm not sure yet. I'm just so much more comfortable with 135 regs than 121 and I have no intention of going 121. Not much time left now before July 31st! (or July 1st, really)

Took ATP's atp 1 day course @ ISP- was pricey, but had to get it done before july 31. Got an 85 w/ 6 hours of preparation.

Do I understand the material , eh not really.. i can fault myself for that. Experience will come with hours and experience.

my 2 cents

Sheppard Air is the way to go.

It doesn't matter which written you take when it comes time for the rating, and Sheppard Air makes the studying much easier. The FAR's are really the only difference between the two (the aircraft types for the problems also, but that doesn't really matter). SA has a study sheet teaches you how to do all the perfromance, cross country, HSI, etc in seconds not hours!

They also have narrowed the test bank down so you don't have to study as many questions. You also get a money back promise, and if you see a question(s) you didn't have in the studying on the test.....remember it and send it to them. They will usually give you your money back for that also! (It's how they keep things current!)

I can't say it enough, SA is the way to go! (Cheaper than most other options by quite a bit too!)

Quick question.. I understand the 31 Jul deadline... But are the results good until the end of the 24 th month?
Scenario--if I take the written 10 July 2014.... Is that good until 10 July 2016 ...or 31 July 2016
Thanks

It goes by calendar months, so July 31, 2016.

There is nothing inherently wrong with these test prep outfits in general, though the ATP knowledge test is no more difficult nor requires any more prep than any other airman test. And yes, no matter the method of test prep, especially after passing, you should actually learn the material...

Although simply passing an FAA written exam is "enough", it shows a lack of motivation to barely get by. Some airlines like Fedex used to want at least a 94-96% minimum on the Flight Engineer Written. Anything less was considered by them to be laziness on the part of the pilot. The answers are all out there. Best of Luck!

Screw this advice. My tickets are in my back pocket. Every time i showed a designee my score he would look at it and say i see you passed.......moving on. And getting a 90 plus on the FE exam is NOT easy.

Avoid Gleim for the ATP written! I purchased their study guide last fall right off the website. I knew the book up and down. I even checked the website for any updates to the current questions. When I took the test, there were at least 15 questions that I had never seen before! Most were ADM and CRM type questions that were not in the guide. I made my best guess but got most of them incorrect. I passed, but the score did not reflect the study effort I put into it.

When I called Gleim, they told me that the FAA has started to slip some of the new question bank into the current test and that they were aware of the situation.

I've always used Gleim for past test prep and my CFI renewal and been happy with the product. Most of my fellow mil guys have gone Sheppard Air and had good results. I wish I hadn't gone the cheap route.

I agree with most people, Sheppard air is the best for the ATP, took it today and got 99.

Sheppard Air was the way to go. Crammed for a weekend and a couple hours on Thursday and Friday. Got a 94 and was only in the testing room 20 minutes. They threw in 10 of those Validation Questions which took the bulk of that time just cause I wanted to see if I could do them. Could tell which ones they were because they required me to use graphs for the CRJ and Q400. Was kind of ticked that PSI wouldn't let me bring in my electronic E6B.

I'll throw in my two cents to echo what most everyone else is saying (although, to be honest at this point it is probably too late to catch the 31 Jul deadline at most test centers).

Go with Sheppard! Six days at a little more than an hour a day = 100%. Like Gulf said, most of my test time was taken up by the 10 'validation' questions. I ran all of the charts just because I had not been exposed to them before.

BTW, if you are in Norfolk (or near Elizabeth City), the test is free for military at the CG base and I hear that the nice testing lady down there will let you stand by for a test spot. (i.e. some Sheppard guy takes 20 mins to finish, she will let you use the rest of his scheduled block to take your exam). So there may be a chance....

Hope this helps. Good luck!

I used Sheppard Air - I think it's the only way to go. It's well presented, updated often, and easy to use. Well worth the $$$.

24 hours left...

Took and passed the ATP written today (thanks Sheppard Air), but had a really odd issue pop up. Submitted the test and saw I got 2 wrong on the review page. Proctor saw the same, but when he went to print the result was 70%. For whatever it's worth, I had the testing software freeze up half way through, but a good recovery.

Anyone experience similar issues today? I get that a pass is a pass, but is it worthwhile to write to OKC to ask for a hand score?