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chignutsak 07-19-2014 03:31 AM

Do everyone a favor and tell us who and where this DB is so others can avoid it.

kme9418 07-19-2014 05:03 AM

You know I do that maneuver in my 747 Part 121 job all the time. It's really important that you get this correct.

Mistek89 07-19-2014 06:26 AM

lol that eight on pylon sure is useful, this is just a situation of someone knowing they are higher up then you, and of course if i complain it wont do anything and on top of that now if i ever get in an interview ill have to explain what i learned from this failure and i guess i learned that he was there to help me in displaying his pure passion of being a db and i dont want to go and say what district in-case for the one and million chance he would see this but lets confine it to the Midwest

ClarenceOver 07-19-2014 06:43 AM

Bite your tongue and get it done. Then when the plastic is in your back pocket say every single profane word you can think of to this examiner directly to his face. I had an examiner tell me i needed to find another profession because i messed up steep turns on the multi. Sometimes these guys have a bad day but wow. its a tough life being a dme collected 350 a checkride to make people uncomfortable for a living.....NOT

captain152 07-19-2014 07:41 AM

Did you seriously say you had a 10 HOUR ORAL?!?! I've never heard of anything more than 5 for a CFI, and most pilots I know took theirs in OKC.

What a complete a$$ bag. Where are you taking this? This just sounds absolutely ridiculous. Almost sounds like he was looking for a reason to fail you and stuck to his "superiority" and in the process made you feel like a POS.

I'd go back and finish the job, but I'd take the AFH with you, and if he pulls that crap again I'd make your point and ask if the book is wrong.

Mistek89 07-20-2014 07:55 PM

Does anyone know if it's true that you can't take a checkride more then twice with the same dpe? A friend of mine failed his double ii oral and his flight because he said he put his gear up during the climb checklist. The dpe told him he can't retake it with him. Not sure if this is true or not

JamesNoBrakes 07-20-2014 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Mistek89 (Post 1687352)
Well he failed me on the flight and on eights on pylons because I established my pa based on my entry gs how I've always done it. He said if I can't do something as simple as figure out how to do an eight on pylon I might as well look to do something else other then instructing. Really don't understand his deal I either have to retake the flight with him or go out of district and do the oral all over again. This whole testing process is a joke all my buddy's that are cfis don't understand what's going on here .

You need to take this to the next higher level.

Mistek89 07-20-2014 08:17 PM

I'm at the point where I feel that there's no point to continue ,maybe try to find a aerial imaging gig or somethng to build time only way I feel il get this done is by going out of district but then il have to retake the oral again.

JamesNoBrakes 07-20-2014 08:22 PM

If you don't stand up to this, how many more people will experience this and have to do it the "wrong" way? This is not right. Standing up to something like this is part of being a CFI, you have to sometimes fight for what's right for your student. Either we are missing some critical piece of information, or you were wronged. If the latter is the case, you need to elevate this. What have you got to lose?

speedfreak4996 07-24-2014 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 1688301)
If you don't stand up to this, how many more people will experience this and have to do it the "wrong" way? This is not right. Standing up to something like this is part of being a CFI, you have to sometimes fight for what's right for your student. Either we are missing some critical piece of information, or you were wronged. If the latter is the case, you need to elevate this. What have you got to lose?

This really ****es me off considering i have to take my CFI / II rides next month with the FSDO. Am doing american flyers


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