sealandair

LOL... what did I just say? I said "self-insured." NON-insured would be tantamount to business suicide, wouldn't it?

sealandair

No, I meant that there are two identical aircraft, both with the same paint and the same registration numbers.

LOL... with all the smart-assed responses my OP has generated (albeit my terminologies being somewhat peculiar) , I'm starting to wonder if $145 an hour is a ****ty deal. My bad... shouldn't have posted.

Timbo

They are actually joined at the hip!

(full disclosure: father of twins)

krudawg

Not really. I fly gliders and most commercial glider operators require that the RENTER show proof of liability and hull renter insurance

OnCenterline

If you don't have renter's insurance that specifically covers a twin, you're out of your mind, especially if the plane is as sketchy as it sounds. So, verify you have enough hull coverage to replace it, and that it covers a twin.

There are two downsides to this plane: it's in Montana, and the $1000 is only good for 7 hours. But....it's twin time. I can remember when I was starting out, everyone was looking for the flight school that had an Apache. It's a slow, antiquated plane, but it does the trick. Just don't try any fancy single-engine tricks in it.

Based on today's prices, this is a pretty good value....

Da40Pilot

I'm heading to Vetter beginning of December to get my MEL and MEI with a buddy. I'm currently a CFII with 1000 tt but no MEL

Yes, if you put $1000 in the account they give you $1100 worth of flying. Here's what I found out from talking to the CFI over there:

1. They don't bill you for the ground sessions (included in hobbs time they say).
2. They don't fly the twin in any kind of IMC conditions.
3. They have an AI on staff....I asked him about the conditions of the twin - he said all works just fine except the rudder trim.
4. It runs on 87 low lead car gas.
5. It's an old twin.
6. They are very selective about who they allow to "time build" on the airplane. I told him specifically I was interested in time building on it with my friend, he said we'd figure it out once we got there. That was the only thing that was kind of odd to me.
7. Examiner charges $375 for the checkride ($600 here in SoCal).

But, $189/hour dual for a twin in 2014 is undeniably the best deal out there.

Imma hang there for 10 days with a buddy, we're both gonna get the MEL....I'll let you guys know how it goes...

Duckdude

You might want to be cautious flying an airplane with a known mechanical problem (rudder trim), especially having posted that you knew of the problem prior to flying it.

Da40Pilot

I wouldn't call an inop rudder trim a mechanical problem. I've flown a few older 182s that had the placard.

Flyhayes

I would be very careful flying an airplane with an inoperative rudder trim. Just because it's placarded "inop" doesn't mean it's airworthy....

threeighteen

not a bad rate, thank you for posting sealandair.