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PROFILECLIMB 09-08-2014 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Flightcap (Post 1722541)
This. I worked with a Ukrainian pilot who a year ago was an airline FO in the Ukraine. The only approaches he had routinely flown were ILS and NDB approaches.

I think outside the US they will be around for years to come and its good to know how to fly old school, the new stuff is cool but stuff happens.

aviatorhi 09-08-2014 06:42 PM

There are also places where they are a necessity as a high power (2,000W) NDB can be received over a distance of hundreds of miles, there are still charted airways over the Pacific which utilize NDBs scattered across those islands. I think there are also routes via Greenland which use them for those unable to utilize tracks.

I know of at least one instance of dual GPS failure 400 NM from land going to an tiny island, having the NBD was a good thing.

PROFILECLIMB 09-08-2014 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1723003)
There are also places where they are a necessity as a high power (2,000W) NDB can be received over a distance of hundreds of miles, there are still charted airways over the Pacific which utilize NDBs scattered across those islands. I think there are also routes via Greenland which use them for those unable to utilize tracks.

I know of at least one instance of dual GPS failure 400 NM from land going to an tiny island, having the NBD was a good thing.

I agree putting all your faith in GPS or a glass cockpit is a bad idea.I don't see steam gauges totally disappearing either as they are reliable, glass can fail as the more computers you have the greater chance of failure. There are many cases where pilots get lazy and let computers do all the work, and when they actually have to think, they forgot the basic skills.

lstorm2003 09-09-2014 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by PROFILECLIMB (Post 1723060)
I agree putting all your faith in GPS or a glass cockpit is a bad idea.I don't see steam gauges totally disappearing either as they are reliable, glass can fail as the more computers you have the greater chance of failure. There are many cases where pilots get lazy and let computers do all the work, and when they actually have to think, they forgot the basic skills.

You imply that steam gauges are more reliable than glass "computers". What facts are you using to form this conclusion?


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