How much for a BFR?
 

Hi there!

Looking for some professional input from other folks here, primarily other freelance / independent CFI's.

Do you do a normal hourly rate (mine is 40, 35 if you pay cash), or a flat rate for BFR's and IPC's? If so, how much for either?

Thanks!

CD

If you're still doing BFRs, you're not up on current regulations. In fact, you're years behind. If I were shopping for an FR, I'd look elsewhere.






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How much for a BFR?
 

Did the content, ground/flight time requirement, frequency of its need, or standards of a BFR change when the name changed to FR?

As for the OP. In my area I charge $50/hr and $40 or reduced for those people I know very well. I tend to be flexible on prices because I have had students who I see are in need but have a dream to become licensed or stay current while chasing jobs, so it's not always firm. But I make sure I don't undercut the other guys in my area.

I have yet to come across someone who was ready after only one hour of ground & one of flight. Just getting through the FAA guide on it takes me a couple of hours when they haven't studied and I hate to rush. Once I did give someone a price of $160 for 2hr flight/2hr ground and then would charge $35 for additional instruction needed but it was a great big hassle since again, they were unprepared. I don't like to undercut the flight schools or other cfis in my area so I usually get their rates too.

Hourly, $50/hr.

To mirror Eman, shocked how unprepared folks are. I really don't like their expectation to be spoon fed, and that's why I don't cut my rate.

BFR, FR, really? So if a guy comes to you for a BFR you tell them to take a hike? Good thing it's free advice online!

Absolutely not! I would see that as a perfect opportunity to teach him something and convince him that I'm the guy he wants to pay for his Flight Review. "Well, the FAA ditched that name over 17 years ago, but I'd be happy to help you brush up on your knowledge and skills with a Flight Review!"

The first item on the list for a Flight Review is "a review of the current general operating and flight rules ..." Now it goes on to say flight rules of Part 91, and the typical non-instructor pilot might not keep up with the certification rules in Part 61, but if the CFI is 17 years behind on Part 61, how can I be sure he'll help me review the current Part 91?


So, if I'm a pilot looking for a Flight Review, and you're advertising a BFR, I might just pass you by, even if you're a few bucks cheaper.


And you're welcome for the free advice. ;)






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$50 an hour should be rock bottom; and don't recommend doing the Min FR either; think how you might come off on the witness stand. A good rule that many follow is double the legal Min plus an hour for each year they have not flown, if applicable.

I charge a straight $500 fee for all ground and flying associated with a FR. People who use me come prepared and those who don't use me might be the type who would be a liability the next two years.

Semantics. That's like calling an engine a powerplant. It has nothing to do with the quality of the instruction or review.

Spare me your superiority complex.

Thanks to everyone else for not being a ****.

I'd bet you have a line out the door of admiring pilots in need of a top-notch Flight Review.

Thank the Administrator we've properly addressed the folly of calling the 61.56(a) Flight Review, which remains due every two years, a "biennial flight review" on the internet.

I too say hourly rate, and have charged $40-50/hr in the past for my time. For somebody on their game it could be as short as 2.5 hours, or as long as it takes for them to obtain proficiency.

Maybe and maybe not. People who respect the process and actually are looking for more than just the quick run through. There are people like that. Usually higher classes of airframes coincide with this, as their general budget offers more. I charge $500/person when giving annual insurance training in a few aircraft that fall into this group, never had anyone even hesitate at the price.(which means I might need to up the rate:cool: )

Oh, so I'm a **** because I pointed out you're using terminology that was made obsolete in the nineties? No, it's not just semantics like engine or powerplant -- they are both current, valid terms. BFR is not.

How can I trust you, why should I pay you, to get me current on the regs when it's obvious you're not current yourself?!?

Good luck, Orville. Your students must love the refresher on wing warping. ;)






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Again...just because.

No, you're a **** for coming across as a ****.

What would have been wrong with saying "hey man, check your 6 on your terminology, real quick. I know people still use BFR, but is actually called FR, and has been for some time now" Instead of coming across like a spoiled jerk with a Napoleon complex on the internet behind a keyboard? I would have received a more professional response from SkyHigh.

Answer: Nothing.

So, thanks for the information despite being snide. Noted.

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they are both current, valid terms. BFR is not.



this is obviously the only thing that matters when figuring how much to charge for a bfr instead of just charging your normal rate and being done with it. lets ask everyones opinion rather than use logic and not start the thread to begin with.

So, basically, you agree I was correct, but you got your feelings hurt because your were corrected.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, Orville. ;)

Have fun teaching.






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I absolutely will, Wilbur.

Well, I'll be, I guess I need to adjust my BFR rates since you have convinced me that $500 is not a lot of money.

Your brohugging brought tears to my eyes. :)

Its not if you own and operate a Meridian, TBM, or cabin-class twin.

Pretty much nailed it.

Also, the fact that insurance requires most of these guys to get recurrent every year, instead of just a "FR" and/or an IPC.

I offer a very affordable alternative to SimCom, although part of that offset is having to use their airplane vs a simulator. Another big selling point to the few people i do this for is its a one day ordeal, not dragging it out 2-3 days.