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Old 02-03-2007, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NE_Pilot View Post
What you are neglecting is that those colleges cost a little over half of what ERAU or UND cost, but when you add in the actual flight training, they cost just about the same. So the debt will be about equal.
Even though state tuition is about half ERAU's, flight training will just about make up the difference??? You're basically saying ERAU flight training is tens of thousands of dollars cheaper than alternatives. That's.........interesting.

Penn State: $13796/yr (one of the more expensive state schools; it actually IS a little over half ERAU's tuition. Even so, adding flight training you're still around $30-40K under.)
UCLA: $7133/yr (A midrange-cost state school. A little over a fourth of ERAU's tuition.)
UF: $3330/yr (Very nice...maybe if you got your PPL in an RJ the ending total would equal ERAU's.)
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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer View Post
LOL...At least it isn't ERAU_Jesse...Right?

When you're done with school head down to ATP and get your ratings then CFI and work in the states keeping your canadian citizenship and benefits intact. If you can get dual citizenship and enjoy both sides of the border. Something to think about...


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LAFF, doing the ratings up here in canada at the FBO and university as well. Already have us citizenship. When im done, ill see where to go (ie) regionals in the states, or companies up here in canada
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Old 02-04-2007, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by NE_Pilot View Post
You neglected the other part of the post, to go to SUNY and get flight training it would cost him:
$101,500 compared to $104,000 is not a real big difference.
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What you are neglecting is that those colleges cost a little over half of what ERAU or UND cost, but when you add in the actual flight training, they cost just about the same. So the debt will be about equal.
I think you are missing my point. I'm saying pay for the ratings when you have the money (ie don't try to fly while going to school, wait until you graduate and are making good money with that non avaition degree).

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JMT21, I realize I will be in quite a bit of debt after school and i also realize I will make less money when I graduate than I would be capable of making if chose a different career path. But that isnt a problem for me. I love flying.
I love a lot of things, but love doesn't pay the bills. Good luck, with the gamble you're taking you're gonna need it.

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LAFF, doing the ratings up here in canada at the FBO and university as well. Already have us citizenship. When im done, ill see where to go (ie) regionals in the states, or companies up here in canada
You made a wise choice, I'm sure things will work out for you. Keep the shiny side up.
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Old 02-04-2007, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NE_Pilot View Post
Dont bother with ATP, you can get it cheaper with a local FBO. ATP costs the same as the UND and ERAU flight portions. You can do it for cheaper and with a more expeirenced instructor at an FBO.
Don't waste your time at an FBO. Serious about flight training head to ATP and get it done and start CFI work to build the hours you'll need to get hired by a regional.

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UND jesse ur plan sounds right on. I would love to have been in your position. I have been to Canada and visited flight schools there as well. I wish I could live in Canada. It's easy now to convert Canadian to FAA or FAA to Canadian. Good luck to you.

btw i'm curious as to how you got a dual?? I didn't know they had actual ''dual citizenships''. I thought you had to pick one if you were born outside of Canada.

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Old 02-04-2007, 10:34 AM
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UND jesse ur plan sounds right on. I would love to have been in your position. I have been to Canada and visited flight schools there as well. I wish I could live in Canada. It's easy now to convert Canadian to FAA or FAA to Canadian. Good luck to you.

btw i'm curious as to how you got a dual?? I didn't know they had actual ''dual citizenships''. I thought you had to pick one if you were born outside of Canada.
Since February 15, 1977, Canadians have been allowed to take foreign citizenship while keeping their Canadian citizenship.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/ENGLISH/citizen/dual-info.html

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yea but there is some stipulation to it if i remember correctly. If you are born in the US and were a US citizen first or not, UND jesse were u born in US or CA?
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JMT21, love may not pay the bills, but when I'm old, looking back on life, I'm not going to be cherishing all the bills I've paid in my life.

Financial stability is important. Even though I may not be making the big bucks, but I'll make ends meet. A lot of people graduate college with debt and work their way out of it.

Thanks for your wishes of good luck. I also extend you the same wishes with your gamble. Life wouldn't be exciting for me if I didn't take the gamble for something I truly want. However, I don't see my education as a gamble, it's a decision that I made after lots of research and thought. I decided I would rather go out and get my certs and ratings while at college than wander around through life, meandering towards the same goal. I'm not going to get stuck working in a cubicle wasting my days away surfing the internet, living out my dreams as a desktop pilot, sitting, waiting, wishing for the job I dream of today.

A wise choice is one that results in the best outcome for that person. Each person is different than the other, different choices work better for different people in the same situations. Assuming that one decision will work better than another in every situation is pretty bold and rather ignorant.

Hey, by the way, what year and major are you here at UND?

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yea but there is some stipulation to it if i remember correctly. If you are born in the US and were a US citizen first or not, UND jesse were u born in US or CA?
In my experience as a US and Canadian citizen, neither country cares about the other, as long as you have the right passport or birth certificate for the one you're living in. The only thing is the inconvenience of ALWAYS having to file a US tax return even if you don't live here

I think that officially Canada allows 3 and the US 2 (or the other way around) but I can't see how they'd find out or why it would matter if you decided to get a few more!

One thing I was curious about - let's say you work for Kelowna flightcraft in BC, Canada as a US/Canadian citizen and they want you to fly into Havana...
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Originally Posted by Puppyz View Post
UND jesse ur plan sounds right on. I would love to have been in your position. I have been to Canada and visited flight schools there as well. I wish I could live in Canada. It's easy now to convert Canadian to FAA or FAA to Canadian. Good luck to you.

btw i'm curious as to how you got a dual?? I didn't know they had actual ''dual citizenships''. I thought you had to pick one if you were born outside of Canada.
My mom is from wichita kansas and my dad is from up here. To get dual now a days you pretty much need a us mom or dad or get sponsored.

In response to flying in canada, I think there is just as much opportunity up here. There are lots of charter opporutnities up north that pay starting FO's just a bit more than Regional FO's. I also think that the university/flight training programs here are great becuase you learn to fly, and earn credits toward a business degree so you have the fall back. The airlines out here are doing very fine even though the governments had to bail out air canada at least 2 times
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