Originally Posted by hypnotika
(Post 1992676)
I had the same issue. The work around is the double major in a second degree related to aviation. Yes, you can do this - ask the VA rep. I picked a business degree because I said I wanted to "go into the aviation business." This allows you to reach the 12 credits you need by taking business courses. Any second degree would work if you justify it... biology and aviation = Wildlife Biologist dumping fish in lakes from an airplane. Geology and aviation - Aerial Surveying. Engineering and aviation = Flight Test pilot
I've got a meeting with a VA coordinator on base next week. I'm definitely going to throw this at them and see what's up. I owe you a beer. |
Oh, lets say you do finish your Private through Commercial cert between Spring-Fall quarter... its right about time for Aerial Surveying season in November (SkyLens/AirAmerica) or drop zones hiring Jump Pilots when the weather warms in March. Great opportunity to fly for these operators and getting some money/experience while taking classes online towards that non-aviation degree :). Then, doing CFI in the Summer or Fall following year if your heart desires. You can even start submitting applications to a big university after that and already be sitting pretty!
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Originally Posted by hypnotika
(Post 1992692)
Oh, lets say you do finish your Private through Commercial cert between Spring-Fall quarter... its right about time for Aerial Surveying season in November (SkyLens/AirAmerica) or drop zones hiring Jump Pilots when the weather warms in March. Great opportunity to fly for these operators and getting some money/experience while taking classes online towards that non-aviation degree :). Then, doing CFI in the Summer or Fall following year if your heart desires. You can even start submitting applications to a big university after that and already be sitting pretty!
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Originally Posted by Romeo Hotel
(Post 1992669)
That's the rub. You have to be enrolled as a full time student to get the FULL housing allowance. With gen ed courses knocked out, and the VA not covering courses outside degree paths, this would reduce my course load to less than 12 credits a semester. At most, I'd be 75% rate and some semesters only 50%. Being AT 50% means no BAH. 51% and above is the only way to qualify for the housing stipend.
I'll have the courses paid for in full, but the housing allowance would fluctuate each semester. That school out in AZ though looks to only use 1 gen ed class a semester. That's a huge benefit over some of the other programs I've looked at. If I could keep each semester at 75% I think I could make that work easily. As far as getting BAH year round, good luck with that one. They will only pay you from the day the class starts till the day the class ends, prorated for partial months. |
Originally Posted by hypnotika
(Post 1992692)
Oh, lets say you do finish your Private through Commercial cert between Spring-Fall quarter... its right about time for Aerial Surveying season in November (SkyLens/AirAmerica) or drop zones hiring Jump Pilots when the weather warms in March. Great opportunity to fly for these operators and getting some money/experience while taking classes online towards that non-aviation degree :). Then, doing CFI in the Summer or Fall following year if your heart desires. You can even start submitting applications to a big university after that and already be sitting pretty!
Thanks for the heads up. I'm open to all possibilities there, I don't care how I build the time, I'm not picky. I just want to make sure I'm getting the most bang for my buck with the VA money.
Originally Posted by TheWeatherman
(Post 1993358)
As far as getting BAH year round, good luck with that one. They will only pay you from the day the class starts till the day the class ends, prorated for partial months. |
from talking to basically every flight school there is that accepts VA benefits, it looks like with the new likely impending policy changes, there is not way to avoid paying out of pocket or taking a loan for at least 20-30k, so I will likely need to stick around the active duty army another year to save $$ so that I don't have to take out a loan or a minimal one. Right now, as it stands, with my bachelors I will likely only be able to get 60-75% BAH coverage, so saving for another year may be smart. I know that's another year I could be building my flight time, but nothing is guaranteed, and if I'm gonna do this, I don't want to take out loans for an unknown future. The tricky point will be once I am a CFI working for poverty wages being able to float without the VA BAH, but certainly I'm not the first one who has been in that boat..building hours to apply to a regional. Thoughts?
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I am currently using my post 9/11 at Auburn. They announced these impending changes to us back in the spring and basically told us we should start taking out loans or prepare for out of pocket because the changes are taking effect ASAP and there would be no grandfather policy. This happened as I was mid commercial, and now doing commercial multi with the threat of out of pocket that I was not prepared for coming into this program. Do yourself a favor and save as much as possible and prepare for the worst. Hopefully this bill will be overturned, but for now there is very little information being given by the VA and it looks like our free ride for flight training is on the chopping block.
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Originally Posted by flyingtiger
(Post 1996377)
I am currently using my post 9/11 at Auburn. They announced these impending changes to us back in the spring and basically told us we should start taking out loans or prepare for out of pocket because the changes are taking effect ASAP and there would be no grandfather policy. This happened as I was mid commercial, and now doing commercial multi with the threat of out of pocket that I was not prepared for coming into this program. Do yourself a favor and save as much as possible and prepare for the worst. Hopefully this bill will be overturned, but for now there is very little information being given by the VA and it looks like our free ride for flight training is on the chopping block.
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Yes, four year degree in professional flight management. It was designed to cover flight training up to commercial multi with a bachelors in business management. So everything is (was) covered 100% under post 9/11. I thankfully haven't had to cut into my savings in the first 3 years of school, and I live with 2 other guys, so I have a little tucked away that should carry me through. With the new bill, they would still cover all costs until you reach the minimum hours according to the FARs, as well as a certain number of ground hours, etc. But as soon as you hit mins, all flight training is out of pocket, while degree related classes are still covered.
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how many hours did it take you to get your PPL?
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