CFII and MEI at the same time?
 

I want to get both of these ratings and it would be easier to just do it all in a multi-engine airplane. Is this possible, or would I have to do the CFII in a single-engine airplane, and then do the MEI in a Multi? I have heard that you can get your CFII and MEI all on the same checkride. I already have my CFI just to clarify.

Thanks

I did my CFII and MEI in an Apache, two separate checkrides.

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category and class
i take it airplanes is your category. What class planes are you going to instruct in??
In order to teach as a CFII in a SE you need to take a checkride for SE and a seperate checkride to teach as a CFII in ME aircraft since they are different "classes" of aircraft. Single engine vs. multi engine

Some instructors I know of worked on their II in a twin, but then took the checkride in a 172 and then the MEI in the Seminole. This kills two birds with one stone. You get the instrument training plus time towards your 15 multi PIC.

I have heard that some examiners will let you do both in the same checkride, but most won't do it. It is legal if you can find a DE that will do it.

BTW, you only need one checkride for the CFII. Works for ME or SE.

You could do both in the same checkride however I was under the impression that you could give instrument instruction in a ME so long as the other person was rated. I don't have my MEI but there is nothing that says my CFII is for only single engine aircraft is there? A vor approach is the same regardless of 1 engine or 4.

Only if they're all running.

excellent point

Yes, the CFII works for any airplane that you are rated in (twins, seaplane, etc.) With certain aircraft you need a certain amounnt of time in make & model to do any sort of instructing in the aircraft (5 hours for light twins).

Not true for Instrument instruction. One checkride in ANY airplane is all you need...

You can take the checkride in a 152 and then teach in a 747, or vice versa.

Theoretically you could, but I doubt that you would find an examiner willing to do it. That would be a LOT of stuff to cover in the oral, and a long flight too.

Get the MEI first, then do the CFII as a seperate ride (you can do it in a twin if you want).

I did my CFII and MEI at the same time.... I trained in a Duchess while getting my 15 hrs PIC and as soon as I got them I went to the checkride where the DE didn't want to do both checkrides in the same airplane so we jumped in the Duchess and did the MEI portion and then went on a C172 and finished the CFII. I would highly recommend it, it does take more work and you will need to prep more but it is doable and it pays off at the end. Make sure you call the DE in advance and let him know of your thoughts and to make sure that he can do both checkrides because some DEs can't do MEI checkrides and some can. Best of luck.

This may also depend on the FSDO that the DE is under as well. For example, the Ft. Worth FSDO wants CFI single-engine add ons done in a complex airplane even though it would be legal to do it in a fixed gear airplane. They won't allow DEs under that FSDO to do them in a straight leg airplane.

To back up ToiletDuck, you can give instrument instruction in a multi-engine airplane if you do not have your MEI. You can only log time as a flight instructor and PIC only while the dual recipient is under the hood. You just have to make sure that you are current for multi-engine if you are going to log PIC. 3 takeoffs and landings in category and class for day and night as appropriate.

How can I find money for Flight Training? Can anyone help me, any good suggestion would be welcome.

Huggie bear. You would be best served with a google search or by using the search engine that this forum has. Your question will not get much exposure piggybacking onto another persons topic.

If you are looking for money there are not any grants per se but if you are military you can use your MGIB benefits. Other than that you can get a job or use a sallie mae loan or any other loan of your choice