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Old 12-12-2015, 11:22 AM   #1  
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So I'm getting smarter on this but it still seems a bit mysterious. Can someone use the Post 9-11 GI Bill to get an ATP?

So far I understand you have to be going through a degree granting institution. This means you are either getting a degree and that program has flying in it, or you are getting a degree in something else and while there you do University approved flying.

But to get an ATP you need more hours than just the mins for MEL, et cetera. So, is there a way to get those hours paid for by GI Bill? Can you get the written class paid for, and the MEL et cetera, all thew ay to ATP checkride paid for by GIBill if you are at a degree institution?

Havent found this anywhere...
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So I'm getting smarter on this but it still seems a bit mysterious. Can someone use the Post 9-11 GI Bill to get an ATP?

So far I understand you have to be going through a degree granting institution. This means you are either getting a degree and that program has flying in it, or you are getting a degree in something else and while there you do University approved flying.

But to get an ATP you need more hours than just the mins for MEL, et cetera. So, is there a way to get those hours paid for by GI Bill? Can you get the written class paid for, and the MEL et cetera, all thew ay to ATP checkride paid for by GIBill if you are at a degree institution?

Havent found this anywhere...
The short answer, yes. But you're not going to get 1,500 hours paid for if that's what you're asking. The Post 9/11 will pay all flight related costs at an actual college. There are lots of collegiate aviation programs that can be found through Google. Generally, they give you an AS or BS in conjunction with PPL through CFI.

On the other hand, you can use your GI Bill ad hoc at a Part 141 school for $12k per year up to 3 years for any rating Instrument or above. This includes the ATP if you are already up for that. A lot of guys seem to do the ATP ride in conjunction with a type rating if the GI Bill is paying. There is also a way to apply to be reimbursed for the costs of the flight test with the examiner.

There is actually quite a bit written on this forum about the GI Bill, which can be easily found with the search function. Happy trails.

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To second fiveninerzero, nothing is going to cover you from 0 to 1500 hour hero.

What I am researching -- and still unable to find -- is a program covered by the GI Bill that covers the CTP course for the 121 written. Higher Power Aviation (now owned by ATP) has a 737 type rating course that is near-entirely covered by the Post-9/11 GI Bill. The caveat right now is that you must have the ATP written complete. That said, with all ATP writtens expiring summer 2016 due to the new rules, that program is going to have to adapt.

In the meantime, if anyone knows of any current or upcoming courses that are covered by the VA in support of the CTP+ATP, please post it here.
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Here is the official list:

Of these, I know ERAU takes the GI Bill, but they require you to be enrolled in their degree program.

Higher Power is on there. The rest are mostly regionals who use it to train their new hires. ABX's program is affiliated with Sporty's. You should be able to use this list to contact them to ask.

http://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/a..._providers.pdf
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https://atpflightschool.com/atp/ctp/index.html

Just found this while doing some research. It states on the bottom that the ATP-CTP is covered by Mongtomery/Post 9-11 Gi bills. I called the number and left a message to confirm this. i have 9 months of benefits left and I'm not going to transfer them and incur an addictional ADSC.
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Just found this while doing some research. It states on the bottom that the ATP-CTP is covered by Mongtomery/Post 9-11 Gi bills. I called the number and left a message to confirm this. i have 9 months of benefits left and I'm not going to transfer them and incur an addictional ADSC.
Which is interesting because the rest of their training is not eligible to be covered by the GI bill since it is not a VA approved 141 program.
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Since this is at Higher Power, maybe that's how they get away with it? Pure speculation. I will try to get ahold of them again and let you guys know. Might be a good deal for those of us who were late to get on the written bandwagon
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Talked to a dude named Paul today at HPA, the ATP CTP is covered by the GI Bill. They received the approval a couple months after they were approved the ATP CTP by the FAA. The ATP practical is under part 61 and not covered by the GI Bill. 4G's for a 4 day course at HPA...can probably find it cheaper elsewheres. Classes start every Monday. Included is the Sheppard Air prep and a voucher to take the written exam. I'm going to go in late Feb/Early March.
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Talked to a dude named Paul today at HPA, the ATP CTP is covered by the GI Bill. They received the approval a couple months after they were approved the ATP CTP by the FAA. The ATP practical is under part 61 and not covered by the GI Bill. 4G's for a 4 day course at HPA...can probably find it cheaper elsewheres. Classes start every Monday. Included is the Sheppard Air prep and a voucher to take the written exam. I'm going to go in late Feb/Early March.
Which hpa location was this? Thanks.
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It was the one in Dallas.
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