should i go ahead for the job of my dreams?
04-24-2016, 01:05 PM
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should i go ahead for the job of my dreams?
hello everybody
i have always dreamed of becoming an airline pilot few days ago i decided that it's about time i go for it i have family in canada and USA and they said they will help go to any good school in there
so i started reading articles about it pilot career... some of them says thats it's the best time to start and some says that alot of pilots out there cant find a job i really dont know what to believe or what to do and im so sad about it .
i want to make this big step but im afraid at the end it will for nothing and then i ll have to find an other job and all that time and money will be a waste
would some body please help me i am really lost here.
i have always dreamed of becoming an airline pilot few days ago i decided that it's about time i go for it i have family in canada and USA and they said they will help go to any good school in there
so i started reading articles about it pilot career... some of them says thats it's the best time to start and some says that alot of pilots out there cant find a job i really dont know what to believe or what to do and im so sad about it .
i want to make this big step but im afraid at the end it will for nothing and then i ll have to find an other job and all that time and money will be a waste
would some body please help me i am really lost here.
04-24-2016, 02:54 PM
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Start by going to a flight school and taking a discovery flight. While at the flight school ask about getting your 1st class medical and who they can refer you to. Get it out of the way and make sure you’re not setting yourself up for failure financially and medically speaking. After that really consider that getting your certificates will cost you somewhere between $50-80,000.00. After of which you will not be qualified for any jobs that pay in excess of $20,000.00 – it is safe to plan that will last for about 2-3 years depending on how long it takes you to get to 1,500 hrs.
Furthermore the window is about 2-3 years if you’re really dedicated and work somewhere giving you hours, it is 4-5 for most to get those hours. During that time your finances will be tight, and it is very possible at the end you may fail to get the job you want. You are risking 80K and 5 years of life with no guarantee on return. If that is something you can’t handle, I don’t recommend doing this as a profession – I know allot former aspiring professional pilots and professional pilots who hung it up because of the finances.
Furthermore the window is about 2-3 years if you’re really dedicated and work somewhere giving you hours, it is 4-5 for most to get those hours. During that time your finances will be tight, and it is very possible at the end you may fail to get the job you want. You are risking 80K and 5 years of life with no guarantee on return. If that is something you can’t handle, I don’t recommend doing this as a profession – I know allot former aspiring professional pilots and professional pilots who hung it up because of the finances.
04-25-2016, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by flywithjohn
Start by going to a flight school and taking a discovery flight. While at the flight school ask about getting your 1st class medical and who they can refer you to. Get it out of the way and make sure you’re not setting yourself up for failure financially and medically speaking. After that really consider that getting your certificates will cost you somewhere between $50-80,000.00. After of which you will not be qualified for any jobs that pay in excess of $20,000.00 – it is safe to plan that will last for about 2-3 years depending on how long it takes you to get to 1,500 hrs.
Furthermore the window is about 2-3 years if you’re really dedicated and work somewhere giving you hours, it is 4-5 for most to get those hours. During that time your finances will be tight, and it is very possible at the end you may fail to get the job you want. You are risking 80K and 5 years of life with no guarantee on return. If that is something you can’t handle, I don’t recommend doing this as a profession – I know allot former aspiring professional pilots and professional pilots who hung it up because of the finances.
Furthermore the window is about 2-3 years if you’re really dedicated and work somewhere giving you hours, it is 4-5 for most to get those hours. During that time your finances will be tight, and it is very possible at the end you may fail to get the job you want. You are risking 80K and 5 years of life with no guarantee on return. If that is something you can’t handle, I don’t recommend doing this as a profession – I know allot former aspiring professional pilots and professional pilots who hung it up because of the finances.
money is not a problem i have some properties that can get me into the best schools in the world once i sell them. im willing to take that risk i guess
i have heard that there are some schools that let you work for them as an instructor to get the amount of hours needed once you finish your programe , is that correct? doest this help? if it's a yes can you please point me to the best of them in your opinion .
thank you in advence .
04-25-2016, 01:39 PM
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Your welcome – flight schools: most flight schools that you get your certificates from are more likely to hire you than not, as long as they are hiring that is. The bigger schools like ATP, National Pilot Academy, and Embry Riddle – tend to hire their graduates more often than pilots who were not trained by them. But there are exceptions and it boils down to what their workforce needs are.
If money is not a factor, and your explicit goal is the airlines; and you want it done quickly – I would go with ATP Flight Schools. The pros are it is quick – you can go from nothing to Commercial Multi CFI in 6 months potentially (if you’re really dedicated, and I mean really), with a job waiting for you at ATP and they have allot of partnerships with several regional US carriers. They also have several locations in the US, but Phoenix and Jackson are the biggest schools.
Cons – very expensive sticker price is 75K but more likely it will be around 80k. No college degree, FAA certificates and hours only. Experience vs. hours – ATP you get more hours than experience, I spent about 4 years going from private to CFI. In that time I learned allot, met several urgency situations and an emergency event or two – I got allot of experience. At ATP and other mill schools, you’re probably not going to get that.
Having instructed at a part 61 school (mom and pop shop) a university 141 program and briefly for ATP – I can say with full honestly that the 61 pilots and a mix of the other 141 pilots seemed to be allot better stick and rudder pilots who hand fly versus guys who are autopilot heavy and essentially systems operators.
Different people have different experiences with flight schools, there is good, bad and downright ugly – I have found it boils down to it is what you make of it. If would like to learn more about ATP here is the website: https://atpflightschool.com/ I am no longer affiliated with them so what I know is historical and likely has changed. Also I only instructed their, I was never trained there.
If money is not a factor, and your explicit goal is the airlines; and you want it done quickly – I would go with ATP Flight Schools. The pros are it is quick – you can go from nothing to Commercial Multi CFI in 6 months potentially (if you’re really dedicated, and I mean really), with a job waiting for you at ATP and they have allot of partnerships with several regional US carriers. They also have several locations in the US, but Phoenix and Jackson are the biggest schools.
Cons – very expensive sticker price is 75K but more likely it will be around 80k. No college degree, FAA certificates and hours only. Experience vs. hours – ATP you get more hours than experience, I spent about 4 years going from private to CFI. In that time I learned allot, met several urgency situations and an emergency event or two – I got allot of experience. At ATP and other mill schools, you’re probably not going to get that.
Having instructed at a part 61 school (mom and pop shop) a university 141 program and briefly for ATP – I can say with full honestly that the 61 pilots and a mix of the other 141 pilots seemed to be allot better stick and rudder pilots who hand fly versus guys who are autopilot heavy and essentially systems operators.
Different people have different experiences with flight schools, there is good, bad and downright ugly – I have found it boils down to it is what you make of it. If would like to learn more about ATP here is the website: https://atpflightschool.com/ I am no longer affiliated with them so what I know is historical and likely has changed. Also I only instructed their, I was never trained there.
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