BarbaPapa

Check the flight school EPIC in FL. They have a partnership with TSA for building hours and access to CFI.

MD-11Loader

I went to ATP, and I loved it. They don't hold your hand. I was in the short course for instructor school, and I ended up getting about three weeks total for all three CFI rides thanks to the 4th of July holiday, and a hurricane that closed Fl down and backed up other checkrides ahead of me. They don't hold your hand. They are there to fly you, and get you into self study mode. They know what the checkride consists of, who the examiners are, and what they'll ask. There are gouges for all of them, and they work.

As for instructing there. Do it. They have housing available for the instructors at a very reasonable rate (if you need it), and you will fly your ass off if you are in the right location. Make sure you are at a school in the south. Phoenix, Dallas, Fort Lauderdale, and Atlanta all fly a ton. You don't want to go up north where you won't have 300 VFR days a year.

ML3415

Anyone have any information about the location in Oakland, CA (hayward)?

I am very near finishing my PPL and I'm strongly considering ATP for the full time Instrument - CFI course. I would not need to go into debt to finance this program, and I would prefer not to have to move (I live in the bay area). I know that at ATP, the quality of the program can depend on the location a lot. I haven't heard much about this location.

Also, what are the probabilities that as a CFI you could choose your location to instruct?

AngryFish

Similar question here, except about the program in Denver. Lots of sunny days here...

I filled out their online information request and they have called me several times. Decided to put off hearing the sales pitch until I know a bit more about it.

Poseidonspulse

It's one thing to train at ATP which I would not recommend, but it's another to instruct there. Have you asked their sales team what your hourly wage as an instructor would be? It's less than $12 an hour. Do you know they get paid zero dollars for ground? Have some self respect and go work for any other school out there. Not sure where you live but in San Diego independent contractors charge $65 an hour. If you don't want to find your own clients, every other school pays between $25 and $40 an hour (ground and flight time). ATPs who gimmick historically has been to get your loads of multi time. If your goal is the airlines all you need is 25 hours multi and you will get the rest in the Sim, you really have no reason to go there. Keep doing your research and make the decision for yourself, but be weary of ATPs empty promises.

MartinBishop

I don't believe that to be true based on people I know instructing.

Poseidonspulse

The OP already has multi turbo prop time and wanted advice from anyone in the know about whether or not ATP would be a good place to instruct. I actually went to ATP did you? My instructors constantly reminded me that they were not getting paid for ground. They only receive pay for dual given in the air, proctoring written exams, and bonuses for their students passing checkrides on first try. I am simply informing the OP of this thread that they would be better off going somewhere that actually pays them industry wages for their time. There are plenty of flight schools out there to choose from. Your sources are not first hand and you are misinformed. If anyone really wants to know he facts, give ATP a call and find out first hand for yourself. If the people you know are happy with instructing there then good for them, just know it's a fact they are not paid for teaching ground.

MartinBishop

How long ago? It is my understanding that this has recently changed.

Soonerpilot72

Anyone have any info or experience with the Raleigh Durham ATP flight school?
I'm looking at going there to finish my training and be a CFI.
Thanks!

yeksene

ATP instructors actually do get paid for ground, they get a weekly ground guarantee, also flight time is tiered...the more your fly, the more you are paid.. Most instructors are getting paid very nicely. ATP is constantly working on improving.