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Old 02-10-2007, 11:19 AM
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What do you guys think of this course?
They guarantee you an interview after completion and
are stating/bragging how their applicants get hired fast!
Are you just making yourself eligible for reduced hiring minimums?

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It's a load of crap. You can guarantee yourself an interview by working hard. Who cares about reduced mins, just apply after you instruct for a year!!

You would be paying a few thousand dollars for what?? Do you get a type rating or anything? Save your money and get all of your Instructor ratings.
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It's a load of crap. You can guarantee yourself an interview by working hard. Who cares about reduced mins, just apply after you instruct for a year!!

You would be paying a few thousand dollars for what?? Do you get a type rating or anything? Save your money and get all of your Instructor ratings.
But wouldnt you get valuable FMS training ansd be just much ahead during your training at an airline?

I love instructing, but I am 38 years old and if I am going to do this airline thing, I need to get there as soon as I can.
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"But wouldnt you get valuable FMS training"

FMS is not that big of a deal. If you know enough about computers to post at this site, you can figure out an FMS without a special class. If getting on at 850 hours vs 1000 hours means that much to ya, then go for it.
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Old 02-17-2007, 03:44 AM
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FMS is not that big of a deal. If you know enough about computers to post at this site, you can figure out an FMS without a special class. If getting on at 850 hours vs 1000 hours means that much to ya, then go for it.
He's right. Don't stress too much about "FMS" expereince. It's not that big a deal. It's not worth the money. Plus most are pretty different any way.
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If you've got some bucks burning a hole in your pocket and you really want an aviation benefit from it, buy yourself some multi time and/or your instructor ratings.
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So, you guys really dont think FMS training is worth it. Thanks. I am currently working on my CFI. I will et my MEI right after. I love teaching though
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Old 02-17-2007, 12:35 PM
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From what I hear its a great program. I myself, will be attending upon being hired at ATP. (Instructors get it at a significant discount) The Rj course is also much more than just FMS training.

Regional Jet Standards Certification Includes
  • CRJ-200 Systems Ground School:
    • Flight Management Systems (FMS)
    • Electronic Flight Instrumentation Systems (EFIS)
    • Engine Indication and Crew Alerting Systems (EICAS)
    • Aircraft Systems and Operation
    • CRM and Emergency Procedures
    • Swept Wing Aerodynamics and Aircraft Performance
  • 20 Hours CRJ-200 FTD Flight Experience
  • Books and Training Materials:
    • ATP’s CRJ-200 Vol.1
    • ATP’s CRJ-200 Vol.2
    • ATP’s FMS Manual
    • ATP’s Jets 101
    • Cockpit Posters
    • PC Based FMS Simulator Software
    • CRJ-200 Systems CD
    • FMS Demo CD
  • Seminar taught by experienced Regional Airline Pilots
  • Take-home FMS software allows for continued practice providing reinforcement and increased confidence
  • Interview Prep Class:
    • Part 121 Regulations
    • Human Resources
    • Resume Prep
    • Mock Interview Questions
    • Jepp Charts & Approach Plates
FMS Coverage
  • FMS Operation
  • FMS Programming, Including:
    • Flight Plans
    • Pilot Defined Waypoints
    • Holding Patterns
    • Precision & Non-Precision Approaches
  • Joining Airways while Enroute
  • Proceeding Direct to Waypoints & Flying from Waypoints
  • VNAV Calculations, Including Top of Descent Calculations
  • Modifying Flight Plans while Enroute
  • Autopilot Functions and Operation
  • EFIS Displays & Operation
http://www.atpflightschool.com/progr...standards.html

So personally I think it would be a good experience. You will learn alot, and it will help when come time for a job with an airline. Just my .25
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DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON "RJ CERTIFICATION".

I have not attended this program but as somebody that flies the CRJ your money is much better spent in multi-time or a Roth IRA. An RJ is not difficult to learn and you learn the FMS very quickly on the line. Basically, they cannot teach you anything you won't learn in training, a turbine systems book, or from aircraft-specific AvSoft guides.

If someone thinks it will help them by all means...but there are MUCH better uses for your hard-earned cash - you'll need as much as you can get your first year.
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I think that it is funny that people pay for this. Buying something that you will get for free? You will get it during ground training, why pay for it? Especially when you could get some multi time or something that you wouldn't normally get.

If people are stupid enough to pay for it, I guess you can't blame them for selling it.
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