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DiveAndDrive 07-05-2016 05:34 AM

Best way to start preparing for CFI?
 
Good morning! As of the time of this post, I have been a commercial ASEL pilot for exactly one week. I am flat broke from obtaining the commercial. I have a lot of my friends say that the CFI is done mostly on your own. How would you recommend I start preparing/training for my CFI on the cheap while I repay my debt from my commercial?

271c 07-06-2016 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive (Post 2156085)
Good morning! As of the time of this post, I have been a commercial ASEL pilot for exactly one week. I am flat broke from obtaining the commercial. I have a lot of my friends say that the CFI is done mostly on your own. How would you recommend I start preparing/training for my CFI on the cheap while I repay my debt from my commercial?

Do whatever you need to do to start getting paid -- usually, that's the CFI of course. You've put in the big money; the CFI is small change comparatively. Places paying salary to CFIs now, higher-than-ever hourly wages, etc. Pay for the initial and you can often get the CFII covered, and MEI possibly. But get the initial ASAP before you forget how to do a lazy 8!

DiveAndDrive 07-06-2016 07:12 AM

Thank you for the reply. I'm thinking about doing AGI and IGI just because it won't cost me anything except the written tests, then I can start getting paid (albeit not for flying) while building my teaching experience.

CFI Guy 07-08-2016 12:43 AM

I personally think the CFI schools are a waste of money. You can absolutely do most of the preparation on your own. I recently instructed a CFI applicant who did his initial with the Feds and failed after attending a large CFI school (American Flyers). He passed after my signoff for the CFI-I and the CFI-A.

I would start by creating your own lesson plans using the appropriate PTS as an outline. You can buy lesson plans but I believe you learn a lot more when you create them yourself and use your own words.

Study the advisory circulars and know the endorsements required for various ratings, solo, etc.

Also, study the FOI's. You need to be able to teach "how to teach". You should know the psychology of learning inside and out.

As far as flying goes, you should be able to pass a commercial checkride from the right seat. It's essentially the same ride as a CSEL (if you are doing your CFI-A as your initial). Go practice all your maneuvers until you are flying to standard per the PTS. The hardest part for new CFI's is the teaching aspect. You need to be able to fly and talk at the same time.

Remember, you are being graded on your ability to teach. There is a lot of information and it's impossible to know everything. However, it's an open book test so know where to find the information.

Once you've put in some serious study hours, created lesson plans, etc., practice teaching! Teach your significant other, your kids, your cat, it doesn't matter- practice talking.

This is essentially what the CFI schools do. You can't possibly learn everything there is to know in a couple weeks. I remember in school all we did is practice getting up in front of each other and teaching lessons. You had to essentially come to school knowing everything and they charged you to have an audience. They did cram some information in my head but if I hadn't studied beforehand I would've been lost.

Once you've thoroughly prepared yourself, find a good 2yr CFI who can sign you off and help you brush up for the practical.

DiveAndDrive 07-08-2016 04:11 AM

CFI Guy, thank you for the well thought out response. So would you recommend doing the route I'm thinking about? Getting the AGI and IGI and getting with some of my CFI friends to see if they would let me teach their students under their supervision?

Yoda2 07-08-2016 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by CFI Guy (Post 2157945)
I personally think the CFI schools are a waste of money. You can absolutely do most of the preparation on your own. I recently instructed a CFI applicant who did his initial with the Feds and failed after attending a large CFI school (American Flyers). He passed after my signoff for the CFI-I and the CFI-A.

I would start by creating your own lesson plans using the appropriate PTS as an outline. You can buy lesson plans but I believe you learn a lot more when you create them yourself and use your own words.

Study the advisory circulars and know the endorsements required for various ratings, solo, etc.

Also, study the FOI's. You need to be able to teach "how to teach". You should know the psychology of learning inside and out.

As far as flying goes, you should be able to pass a commercial checkride from the right seat. It's essentially the same ride as a CSEL (if you are doing your CFI-A as your initial). Go practice all your maneuvers until you are flying to standard per the PTS. The hardest part for new CFI's is the teaching aspect. You need to be able to fly and talk at the same time.

Remember, you are being graded on your ability to teach. There is a lot of information and it's impossible to know everything. However, it's an open book test so know where to find the information.

Once you've put in some serious study hours, created lesson plans, etc., practice teaching! Teach your significant other, your kids, your cat, it doesn't matter- practice talking.

This is essentially what the CFI schools do. You can't possibly learn everything there is to know in a couple weeks. I remember in school all we did is practice getting up in front of each other and teaching lessons. You had to essentially come to school knowing everything and they charged you to have an audience. They did cram some information in my head but if I hadn't studied beforehand I would've been lost.

Once you've thoroughly prepared yourself, find a good 2yr CFI who can sign you off and help you brush up for the practical.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^ And I'd knock out the FOI early and before writing the lesson plans. And remember "Telling is not teaching!"

PS, While the "significant other" works well and a dog can at least cant its head when it doesn't understand, the cat is a last resort, but can still work in a pinch!

CFI Guy 07-16-2016 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive (Post 2157963)
CFI Guy, thank you for the well thought out response. So would you recommend doing the route I'm thinking about? Getting the AGI and IGI and getting with some of my CFI friends to see if they would let me teach their students under their supervision?

I think any teaching experience would be beneficial.


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