Liberty Univ?
07-06-2016, 03:18 PM
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Liberty Univ?
So I've gotten an email from Liberty university, they said to enroll/sign up for the 2016 fall enrollment NOW and secure your schedule and get a 10k scholarship package. Is anyone familiar on how good their avaition program is? Is it good or bad? Worth it? Im going into my senior in and plan on attending college on the fall of 2017( yes the application gives you the choice to select that date to begin college) and I'm planning to become an Airline pilot and looking in plans on how to achieve this goal. Thank you.
07-06-2016, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Alisito
So I've gotten an email from Liberty university, they said to enroll/sign up for the 2016 fall enrollment NOW and secure your schedule and get a 10k scholarship package. Is anyone familiar on how good their avaition program is? Is it good or bad? Worth it? Im going into my senior in and plan on attending college on the fall of 2017( yes the application gives you the choice to select that date to begin college) and I'm planning to become an Airline pilot and looking in plans on how to achieve this goal. Thank you.
They also claim that they offer a guarantee job with a regional such as express jet. Hmmm
07-07-2016, 04:43 AM
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I must have missed that part when i was looking through their stuff! I think your guaranteed a job at any regional if you apply at this point in the game!
Lol yea i can imagine with all the pilot shortage going around, oh well the tuition for Liberty is 30k a year while Delta state is 6.5k- in this case delta is cheaper and I think I'll get enough aid and scholarships to cover that, and In Delta state univ, 43k for your PPL, instrument, Commercial, Multi, CFI, CFI-I , and CMEI so I think I'm
Better of with delta state univ that has an overall price .
07-07-2016, 05:04 AM
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I would NOT get a degree in aviation. And quite honestly I wouldn't get a degree from LU either. Here is why...
1- An aviation degree isn't very diverse if you're a pilot. If you lose your medical or get bored with the profession, or furloughed, etc you'll have to do something else. You'll want a back up career just in case. Major airlines don't really care what your degree is in, so it doesn't matter so much. Which is why its better to get a degree in something unrelated to aviation.
2- I know some people who graduated from LU and they seem to have received a good education. However many employers out there do not consider LU a real school; they consider it 4 years of church camp. While their matriculation may be fine, unfortunately their reputation in the real world is not (justly or unjustly). Getting a degree from there might limit your options severely later on outside of the aviation field.
3- You should get the cheapest degree you possibly can. That means community colleges and state universities. Do your flight training separately. The less debt you have the more options you have.
1- An aviation degree isn't very diverse if you're a pilot. If you lose your medical or get bored with the profession, or furloughed, etc you'll have to do something else. You'll want a back up career just in case. Major airlines don't really care what your degree is in, so it doesn't matter so much. Which is why its better to get a degree in something unrelated to aviation.
2- I know some people who graduated from LU and they seem to have received a good education. However many employers out there do not consider LU a real school; they consider it 4 years of church camp. While their matriculation may be fine, unfortunately their reputation in the real world is not (justly or unjustly). Getting a degree from there might limit your options severely later on outside of the aviation field.
3- You should get the cheapest degree you possibly can. That means community colleges and state universities. Do your flight training separately. The less debt you have the more options you have.
07-07-2016, 05:40 AM
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[QUOTE=MartinBishop;2157271]I would NOT get a degree in aviation. And quite honestly I wouldn't get a degree from LU either. Here is why...
1- An aviation degree isn't very diverse if you're a pilot. If you lose your medical or get bored with the profession, or furloughed, etc you'll have to do something else. You'll want a back up career just in case. Major airlines don't really care what your degree is in, so it doesn't matter so much. Which is why its better to get a degree in something unrelated to aviation.
2- I know some people who graduated from LU and they seem to have received a good education. However many employers out there do not consider LU a real school; they consider it 4 years of church camp. While their matriculation may be fine, unfortunately their reputation in the real world is not (justly or unjustly). Getting a degree from there might limit your options severely later on outside of the aviation field.
3- You should get the cheapest degree you possibly can. That means community colleges and state universities. Do your flight training separately. The less debt you have the more options you have.[/QUOTE
Well yes at this point I have two good options
1.) Go to FIU (earn a degree in something useful) and attend flight school 18 min away.
Pros: I'm pretty sure I'll get my tuition for FIU covered with Aid, and scholarships.
And it's in my state(FL) so I can qualify for bright futures.
Cons: Fitting a schedule for Flight school and College?
Paying for flight school if I have two things to do a day, where am I going to fit a job?
The flight school does not have CFI CFI-I and CMEI courses.
2.) Delta state univ flight program ;
Pros: I get everything done such as all the ratings so when I finish I can get a CFI job to complete my hours.
Tuition is only 50k for the 4 years-'might get most covered with tuition and aid
-cheap flight cost 42k for ALL the certifications except ATP of course
Cons: Out of state
-I get a degree in aviation which is not very helpful outside of aviation.
-Not sure if the cost is high? Of course LU is way more expensive
So these are the two options .Thanks for the response I hope you get to see this. Thank you
1- An aviation degree isn't very diverse if you're a pilot. If you lose your medical or get bored with the profession, or furloughed, etc you'll have to do something else. You'll want a back up career just in case. Major airlines don't really care what your degree is in, so it doesn't matter so much. Which is why its better to get a degree in something unrelated to aviation.
2- I know some people who graduated from LU and they seem to have received a good education. However many employers out there do not consider LU a real school; they consider it 4 years of church camp. While their matriculation may be fine, unfortunately their reputation in the real world is not (justly or unjustly). Getting a degree from there might limit your options severely later on outside of the aviation field.
3- You should get the cheapest degree you possibly can. That means community colleges and state universities. Do your flight training separately. The less debt you have the more options you have.[/QUOTE
Well yes at this point I have two good options
1.) Go to FIU (earn a degree in something useful) and attend flight school 18 min away.
Pros: I'm pretty sure I'll get my tuition for FIU covered with Aid, and scholarships.
And it's in my state(FL) so I can qualify for bright futures.
Cons: Fitting a schedule for Flight school and College?
Paying for flight school if I have two things to do a day, where am I going to fit a job?
The flight school does not have CFI CFI-I and CMEI courses.
2.) Delta state univ flight program ;
Pros: I get everything done such as all the ratings so when I finish I can get a CFI job to complete my hours.
Tuition is only 50k for the 4 years-'might get most covered with tuition and aid
-cheap flight cost 42k for ALL the certifications except ATP of course
Cons: Out of state
-I get a degree in aviation which is not very helpful outside of aviation.
-Not sure if the cost is high? Of course LU is way more expensive
So these are the two options .Thanks for the response I hope you get to see this. Thank you
07-07-2016, 09:16 AM
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Unless you're a super religiously conservative christians, or are willing to fake it- don't go to Liberty. Curfews, fines for swearing, ban on drinking alcohol... Not for Everyone.
Go to a state school some place warm... End enjoy the college experience.
Go to a state school some place warm... End enjoy the college experience.
07-07-2016, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Alisito
Well yes at this point I have two good options
1.) Go to FIU (earn a degree in something useful) and attend flight school 18 min away.
Pros: I'm pretty sure I'll get my tuition for FIU covered with Aid, and scholarships.
And it's in my state(FL) so I can qualify for bright futures.
Cons: Fitting a schedule for Flight school and College?
Paying for flight school if I have two things to do a day, where am I going to fit a job?
The flight school does not have CFI CFI-I and CMEI courses.
2.) Delta state univ flight program ;
Pros: I get everything done such as all the ratings so when I finish I can get a CFI job to complete my hours.
Tuition is only 50k for the 4 years-'might get most covered with tuition and aid
-cheap flight cost 42k for ALL the certifications except ATP of course
Cons: Out of state
-I get a degree in aviation which is not very helpful outside of aviation.
-Not sure if the cost is high? Of course LU is way more expensive
So these are the two options .Thanks for the response I hope you get to see this. Thank you
07-07-2016, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinBishop
I would NOT get a degree in aviation. And quite honestly I wouldn't get a degree from LU either. Here is why...
1- An aviation degree isn't very diverse if you're a pilot. If you lose your medical or get bored with the profession, or furloughed, etc you'll have to do something else. You'll want a back up career just in case. Major airlines don't really care what your degree is in, so it doesn't matter so much. Which is why its better to get a degree in something unrelated to aviation.
2- I know some people who graduated from LU and they seem to have received a good education. However many employers out there do not consider LU a real school; they consider it 4 years of church camp. While their matriculation may be fine, unfortunately their reputation in the real world is not (justly or unjustly). Getting a degree from there might limit your options severely later on outside of the aviation field.
3- You should get the cheapest degree you possibly can. That means community colleges and state universities. Do your flight training separately. The less debt you have the more options you have.
1- An aviation degree isn't very diverse if you're a pilot. If you lose your medical or get bored with the profession, or furloughed, etc you'll have to do something else. You'll want a back up career just in case. Major airlines don't really care what your degree is in, so it doesn't matter so much. Which is why its better to get a degree in something unrelated to aviation.
2- I know some people who graduated from LU and they seem to have received a good education. However many employers out there do not consider LU a real school; they consider it 4 years of church camp. While their matriculation may be fine, unfortunately their reputation in the real world is not (justly or unjustly). Getting a degree from there might limit your options severely later on outside of the aviation field.
3- You should get the cheapest degree you possibly can. That means community colleges and state universities. Do your flight training separately. The less debt you have the more options you have.
07-07-2016, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinBishop
Rush through college as fast as possible. Get to 1500 hrs as fast as possible. The industry revolves around seniority, which means the sooner you get to an airline, the better off you will be.
Sure, you can set some goals and chart a course to achieve them. But, you need to put in the time and work.
Getting a 4-year degree expeditiously may be possible and save you money. Some folks are able to cut some time off the 4-year timeline and streamline the process with extra work. But, you want to make sure your degree is worth the time and can help you should your future plans change regarding airline employment. If your priorities change or you lose the ability to hold an FAA medical certificate, you may not want some degree you rushed through that means nothing because you were in a hurry.
Getting to 1500 hours isn't some magic number. No major airline is going to hire someone with a wet ATP and 1500 hours fresh out of college. So, hurrying to get on with "an airline" doesn't mean he's anywhere close to being at his final career stop (where his seniority will truly matter). Maybe he ends up bush flying in Alaska, changes his mind and joins the military or some other path to true flight experience. Getting on with an airline at 1500 hours most likely means flying for a regional airline and continuing to gain experience to become competitive for his goal of a position at a major airline. There are many ways to gain that experience that don't involve rushing to get hired at an airline with 1500 hours.
He's 17 years old and isn't even finished with high school. Advising him to rush through the next 8-10 years of his life just to maybe have better seniority is a little unrealistic, IMO.
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