Time-Building Daytona Beach, FL $47/hr Wet
Hey Guys and Gals,
I would like to build another 250-300 hours in the course of 4-5 months. I am looking to rent from Air America Flight Center. They have a Cessna 172L that they charge $94/hr or $890/10 hour block which we would split 50/50. Come and fly for as long as you need. About The Area/Airport: The Daytona Beach area is quite nice and about an hour away from Orlando. Daytona Beach is known for its amazing year round weather and a central hub for pilots in training. Every other person you meet is a pilot and the people here are generally friendly to any race, culture or religion. The airport is adjacent with the Daytona Speedway, which usually has an event every so often. There also is a new Tanger Outlet that just opened up 2-4 miles away for anyone looking to do a little shopping. Its busy during the day and quiet at night. Daytona Airport is a class Charlie airspace, with daily flights for Delta, American Airlines, and JetBlue. About Me: I am a current Masters student at Embry-Riddle University and I am originally from Long Island, NY. I will be graduating May 2017, and before I go back home I would like to take advantage of the weather and cheap rental/fuel. I only have classes twice a week so we have plenty of time to fly and explore the areas around. I have my ASEL CPPL and my goal is to get into the airlines as soon as possible. I have been told by numerous pilots that I am pretty chill in the cockpit and make it extremely fun and safe to fly. I have a lot of stories to share and talk about. Building hours can get kinda boring, but we can learn a lot from each other and have a blast doing it. PM if you are interested. Thank You! Link To Rental: Time Builders - Flight Center | Air America Flight Center |
Originally Posted by nomisajid
(Post 2275898)
Hey Guys and Gals,
I would like to build another 250-300 hours in the course of 4-5 months. I am looking to rent from Air America Flight Center. They have a Cessna 172L that they charge $94/hr or $890/10 hour block which we would split 50/50. Come and fly for as long as you need. About The Area/Airport: The Daytona Beach area is quite nice and about an hour away from Orlando. Daytona Beach is known for its amazing year round weather and a central hub for pilots in training. Every other person you meet is a pilot and the people here are generally friendly to any race, culture or religion. The airport is adjacent with the Daytona Speedway, which usually has an event every so often. There also is a new Tanger Outlet that just opened up 2-4 miles away for anyone looking to do a little shopping. Its busy during the day and quiet at night. Daytona Airport is a class Charlie airspace, with daily flights for Delta, American Airlines, and JetBlue. About Me: I am a current Masters student at Embry-Riddle University and I am originally from Long Island, NY. I will be graduating May 2017, and before I go back home I would like to take advantage of the weather and cheap rental/fuel. I only have classes twice a week so we have plenty of time to fly and explore the areas around. I have my ASEL CPPL and my goal is to get into the airlines as soon as possible. I have been told by numerous pilots that I am pretty chill in the cockpit and make it extremely fun and safe to fly. I have a lot of stories to share and talk about. Building hours can get kinda boring, but we can learn a lot from each other and have a blast doing it. PM if you are interested. Thank You! Link To Rental: Time Builders - Flight Center | Air America Flight Center |
Originally Posted by awax
(Post 2275905)
How are you going to log 172 time when you're sitting in the right seat? Are you a CFI? I'm trying to understand the advantage of splitting the cost 50/50.
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You should do some more research. The only way two pilots can log PIC for the ENTIRE flight is if one is a CFI. Safety pilot time can only be logged while the other pilot is under the hood, so the safety pilot cannot log the time that the aircraft is on the ground.
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
(Post 2275997)
You should do some more research. The only way two pilots can log PIC for the ENTIRE flight is if one is a CFI. Safety pilot time can only be logged while the other pilot is under the hood, so the safety pilot cannot log the time that the aircraft is on the ground.
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You are completely wrong. Two pilots can not "agree" to spit PIC duties. The FAA and industry only accepts 2 ways to have two pilots log PIC time. Dual instruction and safety pilot time with one pilot under the hood. Two private pilots CANNOT both log time unless on is under the hood.
All pilots interested in the OP's offer need to stay away. He doesn't understand the CFRs or the industry as much as he thinks he does. The FAA or any future employer will not count this time if you tell them that you made an "agreement" with the other pilot that one would be in charge and the other would manipulate the controls. You will waste your money, time, and the interviewer would rip up your application. |
A view limiting device has to be involved. For any portion of the flight that doesn't involve the hood only one person can be logging the flight time. At a place like DAB, it could easily mean well over 0.5 hours will be unloggable for the safety pilot during each flight due to the ground ops there.
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
(Post 2276246)
You are completely wrong. Two pilots can not "agree" to spit PIC duties. The FAA and industry only accepts 2 ways to have two pilots log PIC time. Dual instruction and safety pilot time with one pilot under the hood. Two private pilots CANNOT both log time unless on is under the hood.
All pilots interested in the OP's offer need to stay away. He doesn't understand the CFRs or the industry as much as he thinks he does. The FAA or any future employer will not count this time if you tell them that you made an "agreement" with the other pilot that one would be in charge and the other would manipulate the controls. You will waste your money, time, and the interviewer would rip up your application. Thank you |
I think I see where others are getting confused and I understand and apologize. Splitting time would be a better way of putting it rather than splitting costs. Of course the only way two commercial or private license pilots can split time is if they both AGREE to who is PIC and who is the safety pilot and therefore both can log PIC when appropriate. If you are the safety pilot we can figure out a fair way for that person to pay for each leg of the flight. I don't really care about the money aspect of it, I would like to start flying as soon as possible with anyone who would care to join.
I thought this was unspoken considering everyone else here is doing the same thing? Splitting time with a safety pilot, so the same rules apply here. |
The safety pilot can only log the time that the other pilot is under the hood. If the hood is not on, no safety pilot is required no matter what you agreed on before the flight.
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