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02-23-2017, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by David Puddy

I hear Ryanair is slated to provide Euro feed from Dublin and EDI - not that they will need it. I am predicting very high load factors in both directions. Weekend in Dublin anyone?

Sorta a painful weekend if you ask me to endure a 737 both ways across the Atlantic.

02-23-2017, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by full of luv

Sorta a painful weekend if you ask me to endure a 737 both ways across the Atlantic.

A coach seat is a coach seat. 6 hours in a 737 across the pond is no different than a 6 hour transcon in a 757. Or a 767. No matter how much we'd like to think it is. An infrequent traveler can't tell the difference. And if the choice is between a miserable seat on NAI and not going, people who don't regularly fly are going to complain about how bad the seat was.

02-23-2017, 11:07 AM

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I made a couple searches and it was 400$, guess the low fares are gone.

02-23-2017, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by robthree

So true. How does a 6 hour United flight in a 737 from SFO to HNL feel more comfortable than a 737 from NAI, crossing a different body of water? Coach international travel on any US legacy carrier is not an enjoyable trip. So why wouldnt people pay less for essentially the same miserable experience?

NAI is a new competitor and Legacy carriers (management) needs to adapt or suffer from it. Like mentioned before, match their flights and undercut them. Blink and they may look back in 10 years and say "wish we would have gone after them when they were just starting out"

02-23-2017, 11:30 AM

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Awesome, competition in the marketplace is always healthy!

02-23-2017, 11:58 AM

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Awesome, competition in the marketplace is always healthy!

In this case, a healthy downward anchor on overall pilot compensation in the US. At the end of the day, all pilots are offering their services in the same market.

02-23-2017, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by full of luv

In this case, a healthy downward anchor on overall pilot compensation in the US. At the end of the day, all pilots are offering their services in the same market.

Unfortunately the non-pilot public (newly minted term) does not care for pilot compensation. Until there is an accident that is.

02-23-2017, 12:48 PM

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In this case, a healthy downward anchor on overall pilot compensation in the US. At the end of the day, all pilots are offering their services in the same market.

We're quite safe actually... the amount of money we get paid is a very small fraction of the actual cost of a ticket: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oe8T3AvydU&t=132s

02-23-2017, 02:28 PM

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The amount you get paid is a small fraction of alot of things.

02-23-2017, 03:01 PM

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David Puddy

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Originally Posted by trip

I made a couple searches and it was 400$, guess the low fares are gone.

It's called yield management. Only the first 10-20 seats of any flight are sold at the cheapest price and they escalate in pricing tiers until the final seats are roughly $400. Sounds like those early flights are selling out.