Update on Foreign Outifts Hiring FAA ATPs
 

Just doing some research lately. I can't find anyone other than Emirates and ANA/Air Japan hiring U.S. pilots that do not have a type rating. Is this true?

I know Etihad MIGHT hire but you are required to have a type rating or time in type in the A320, B777 or B787.

What happened to Qatar, and Singapore airlines? SIA is showing that you must have Singaporean citizenship to apply.

What about Cathay Pacific?

China contractors typically want time in type as well.

Does anyone know anything different? Any other good foreign outfits to apply too?

There are a few gigs that will hire non-rated DEC and DEFO with an ICAO license (and that of course includes the FAA ATP) the thing that varies is the previous experience they require.
If you post your background, it might help to narrow your choices

Check out the non type rated gig for EVA Air NTR777 job through GPS aviation or APAS. They are hiring non typed FOs. Many of my colleagues are there with just CRJ experience.
Peach in Japan via Parc is hiring non type rated captains.

I'm above EVA Air's age requirement.

Age 60+, Where To Go?
 

Turn 60 this year, this great gig in Shenzhen likely to end. Current 757/767. 744 type. FAA ATP + Medical. CAAC also, but probably will have to leave China.. Thinking about Corporate! Buy a type rating? Where would you guys start looking? What would you guys do?

You can fly until 65 here at Air Japan if you want to give it a world. There are a few contract corporate gigs out here in Asia...., I would get in touch with the popular head hunters (Rishworth, PARC/CAE....) for options.

Good luck

Hey Dom you missed the change... Can fly till 68th birthday here in Japan... That said, Peach and Spring Japan are options hiring over age 60... Spring Japan has their 2nd Expat class starting 1 May... Recommend Crew for Peach and IASCO for Spring Japan...

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No..., I didn't. The regulation has indeed changed but many companies have not adopted it...., not sure about Spring or Peach but I know that neither Air Japan, NCA nor Vanilla have adopted the age 68..., in these outfits it is still age 65

Yes the 0ver 65 is also Company dependent... IBEX, Peach, Spring Japan and ANA Wings on the DCH8 are currently allowing pilots to fly past 65 not sure of any others... The first class at Spring were guys from Solaseed who where approaching 65... ANA Wings last Expat left in Dec he was 64, they have been trying to recruit but so far have been unsuccessful...

Not sure of the original posters quals and from the sounds he is a bit older, ANA Wings may be a option... Money is a bit lite but better than USA RJ deals... A/C are super clean/mx excellent... ITM/Osaka is a nice city, spent 5 months there after 3/11... They have a follow on deal with Peach for the 320 trans... Of 11 wings guys going 10 have successful... Checkout Crew for a application... Now direct contract with Wings... Agencies just recruit...

EVA Air in Taiwan hiring DEFO with or without TR on B777. Need 2500 hrs TT with 500 jet time. Good pay, 8-10 days off, commute. great if you live in NYC, SFO, LAX, ORD

What's "good pay" is it better than ANA? Is this a good deal for a young guy with no family who lives in LA? Must you commute or can you live in Taiwan? Are there many expats jumping to go there?

Cathay, last I heard, was hiring DFOs (Direct Entry FO). I think their requirements are pretty high. They are also hiring DSO (Second Officers...Relief FOs). The DSO contract is crap. I'm not sure about the contract for DFOs.

pprune.org is the best site for non-US aviation info...

There are corporate/charter jobs all over internationally, and some you don't need to be type rated.

Its a bottom feeder, but I know Asia Atlantic is getting 3 more B767s and they are looking for DEC's in Bangkok. The CP is an American, and possibly some other management are as well. It would be mostly China to BKK and HKT. Maybe some Bali.
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I work for EVA now and if anyone needs a reference can contact me. We can do share the reference bonus that I'd get from the Contract Agency. APAS is a the better choice if you wanna go through them since they are based in Taiwan.

Good pay is about 6K a month net plus 2000-3000 for perdiem and overtime on the 777. You get one month salary as a bonus plus profit bonus yearly which is about 2-3K. That is the pay. Also, expect to get about 6 k back in tax refund each year. Training pay is about 5200 minus taxes for the first 5-6 months. The type rating is free, though you do sign a bond for 30k for 3 years.

You can commute anywhere on EVA flight, first class seat for jumpseater on a confirmed basis, unless you commute to Japan, KL etc might have to seat in cockpit. But you can live in Taiwan, no need to commute, but have to stay at the EVA dorm(company provided accommodation which is like a studio apartment).

I think it is a great deal for single guys, life in Taiwan is great, cost of living is very low and healthcare is great. People are really nice and humble. For a single guy i'd say its great, good night life etc.

The flying culture is strict, stick to the SOP and fly safe that is all. Stick to the books simple as that. Opportunity to upgrade within 4-5 years on A321 and 6-7 years on widebody. There are expats from approximately 40 different countries working here. At times it is easier to fly with the locals then with the expats. But it all depends. but pretty good group I'd say.

ANA and other airlines are good too. But depends what you want, if you are looking for money, EVA may not be the good choice. If you looking for a long term stable career, EVA is a great choice.

Eva Air is certainly a career airline if one desires such the lifestyle provided. Won't get rich but it's a chance to live an exotic lifestyle flying around the World. Similar to the ME3 set up for expats but lower pay.

What's retirement there in Taiwan?

Corporate jobs in TPE are paying $21-28K a month. Eva has a long way to go with pay.

Just who is that paying 21-28k USD? I've got a friend flying the top of the G series and he is not getting that amount! Another outfit owns by Terry Koo isn't close to what you have quoted! FYI, there is very very little corporate job in Taiwan.