Norwegian adds Denver and Seattle
06-28-2017, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NEDude
I am sure that will be highly effective...
Looks like it was
06-29-2017, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
This does nothing to Norwegian.
Also, just remember that these deals are reciprocal. The U.S. has to play by the rules as well. Let's see what happens when this gets turned around on the U.S. airlines. Only two weeks of vacation, health insurance coverage has to be paid by the employee, no guaranteed pension plan. The U.S. does quite a bit to undercut labour standards of the rest of the first world.
NAI does not have Singapore flight crew and has ZERO employees based in Bangkok, contrary to what ALPA tells you. Norwegian Air Shuttle (NAS) has Bangkok crews. But NAS is registered in Norway, and everything is fully compliant with Norwegian labour law. So this proposed legislation would have ZERO effect on the things ALPA is complaining about. Remember ALPA claims that the Bangkok employees are allowed because of NAI being registered in Ireland, but the two are not connected.
Lastly, will this attempt to block Swiss, Austrian, Brussels Airlines, Aer Lingus, Thomas Cook Scandinavia and others? They are all registered outside the country of their majority shareholders and thus play under different labour laws.
06-29-2017, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot
The other thing written into this law is privatization of ATC. Thanks ALPA for helping to increase the cost of GA in America 
Was in DAY not long ago. Used to be called little Detroit. Heartbreaking. The state I'm from used to own textiles and furniture, toast. So we already know a country conceding the durable goods side of GNP is weakening. Would be nice to think air transportation won't be next.
06-29-2017, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NEDude
And yet they are still flying and expanding service...
This does nothing to Norwegian.
Also, just remember that these deals are reciprocal. The U.S. has to play by the rules as well. Let's see what happens when this gets turned around on the U.S. airlines. Only two weeks of vacation, health insurance coverage has to be paid by the employee, no guaranteed pension plan. The U.S. does quite a bit to undercut labour standards of the rest of the first world.
NAI does not have Singapore flight crew and has ZERO employees based in Bangkok, contrary to what ALPA tells you. Norwegian Air Shuttle (NAS) has Bangkok crews. But NAS is registered in Norway, and everything is fully compliant with Norwegian labour law. So this proposed legislation would have ZERO effect on the things ALPA is complaining about. Remember ALPA claims that the Bangkok employees are allowed because of NAI being registered in Ireland, but the two are not connected.
Lastly, will this attempt to block Swiss, Austrian, Brussels Airlines, Aer Lingus, Thomas Cook Scandinavia and others? They are all registered outside the country of their majority shareholders and thus play under different labour laws.
This does nothing to Norwegian.
Also, just remember that these deals are reciprocal. The U.S. has to play by the rules as well. Let's see what happens when this gets turned around on the U.S. airlines. Only two weeks of vacation, health insurance coverage has to be paid by the employee, no guaranteed pension plan. The U.S. does quite a bit to undercut labour standards of the rest of the first world.
NAI does not have Singapore flight crew and has ZERO employees based in Bangkok, contrary to what ALPA tells you. Norwegian Air Shuttle (NAS) has Bangkok crews. But NAS is registered in Norway, and everything is fully compliant with Norwegian labour law. So this proposed legislation would have ZERO effect on the things ALPA is complaining about. Remember ALPA claims that the Bangkok employees are allowed because of NAI being registered in Ireland, but the two are not connected.
Lastly, will this attempt to block Swiss, Austrian, Brussels Airlines, Aer Lingus, Thomas Cook Scandinavia and others? They are all registered outside the country of their majority shareholders and thus play under different labour laws.
06-29-2017, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NEDude
And yet they are still flying and expanding service...
This does nothing to Norwegian.
Also, just remember that these deals are reciprocal. The U.S. has to play by the rules as well. Let's see what happens when this gets turned around on the U.S. airlines. Only two weeks of vacation, health insurance coverage has to be paid by the employee, no guaranteed pension plan. The U.S. does quite a bit to undercut labour standards of the rest of the first world.
NAI does not have Singapore flight crew and has ZERO employees based in Bangkok, contrary to what ALPA tells you. Norwegian Air Shuttle (NAS) has Bangkok crews. But NAS is registered in Norway, and everything is fully compliant with Norwegian labour law. So this proposed legislation would have ZERO effect on the things ALPA is complaining about. Remember ALPA claims that the Bangkok employees are allowed because of NAI being registered in Ireland, but the two are not connected.
Lastly, will this attempt to block Swiss, Austrian, Brussels Airlines, Aer Lingus, Thomas Cook Scandinavia and others? They are all registered outside the country of their majority shareholders and thus play under different labour laws.
This does nothing to Norwegian.
Also, just remember that these deals are reciprocal. The U.S. has to play by the rules as well. Let's see what happens when this gets turned around on the U.S. airlines. Only two weeks of vacation, health insurance coverage has to be paid by the employee, no guaranteed pension plan. The U.S. does quite a bit to undercut labour standards of the rest of the first world.
NAI does not have Singapore flight crew and has ZERO employees based in Bangkok, contrary to what ALPA tells you. Norwegian Air Shuttle (NAS) has Bangkok crews. But NAS is registered in Norway, and everything is fully compliant with Norwegian labour law. So this proposed legislation would have ZERO effect on the things ALPA is complaining about. Remember ALPA claims that the Bangkok employees are allowed because of NAI being registered in Ireland, but the two are not connected.
Lastly, will this attempt to block Swiss, Austrian, Brussels Airlines, Aer Lingus, Thomas Cook Scandinavia and others? They are all registered outside the country of their majority shareholders and thus play under different labour laws.
06-29-2017, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaded N Cynical
Says the ALPA hater
06-29-2017, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by NEDude
Not an ALPA hater. I have spent many years as a dues paying member and was on an ALPA organizing committee. I just have the ability to recognize when they are wrong. Perhaps you should develop that ability too, instead of blindly following the propaganda. Or does that take too much effort?
I give mightily to the PAC, and I'm very politically involved. I want to make sure the next generation of United States citizens have a career here. Not to some foreign national entity who shops the lowest cost pilots in the world.
06-29-2017, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NEDude
Perhaps you should develop that ability too, instead of blindly following the propaganda. Or does that take too much effort?
06-29-2017, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
Propaganda? Precisely what support for this kind of unrestricted route authority is. Philosophical justification for pseudo economists & end runners alike. I see workers losing jobs. I see displaced workers seeking jobs only finding worse jobs. NAI and their ilk? Rock'em, sock'em, BLOCK'EM.
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