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Old 05-07-2018, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER View Post
What are you expecting us to cheer your company on? GMAFB. Did you expect anything different when you took the job?
I guess it is time for your reminder again:

Hypocrite | Define Hypocrite at Dictionary.com

Let me highlight number 2 for you-

a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude (e.g."Undercutting industry standard pay and working conditions is a bad thing and nobody should do it, no excuses.") , especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements (e.g. "I took a job at a bottom feeder company and my pay and benefits were directly responsible for cutting pay and working conditions at a legacy airline. But I had no other opportunities so it was okay for me to do that").
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Originally Posted by Joachim View Post
That post says more about you than it does Norwegian.
Why? He's simply stating a fact. Not rejoicing.
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Norwegian's April traffic numbers are out today. Not pretty.

https://www.norwegian.com/globalasse...april-2018.pdf

-20% RASK (metric equivalent of RASM)
-16% yield

Some of that's due to longer stage lengths but those numbers are not good.

Load factor -3.6%
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Fuel up again today. Bad for airlines in general, but especially for Norwegian. More cash they can't afford to burn.
For the airlines??? Nah. They’ll survive for the most part. With an average of 14,000+ crewmembers on the properties of the big 3? History since the beginning of the airlines hiring, and furloughing as in the past has a habit of repeating itself.
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For the airlines??? Nah. They’ll survive for the most part. With an average of 14,000+ crewmembers on the properties of the big 3? History since the beginning of the airlines hiring, and furloughing as in the past has a habit of repeating itself.
With the number of retirements, changes in FAA training requirements and contractual changes that allow wide swings in monthly hours and line construction it’s pretty unlikely the big 4 will see furloughs.
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With the number of retirements, changes in FAA training requirements and contractual changes that allow wide swings in monthly hours and line construction it’s pretty unlikely the big 4 will see furloughs.
Your statement may be valid, provided he airlines continue to maintain their current schedules and available capacity. However, the ‘70s and post 9/11 proved differently.

As in the past, and present, and foreseeable future, expat opportunities have and will continue to afford pilots an alternative outlet to maintain their current life styles.
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Originally Posted by captjns View Post
Your statement may be valid, provided he airlines continue to maintain their current schedules and available capacity. However, the ‘70s and post 9/11 proved differently.

As in the past, and present, and foreseeable future, expat opportunities have and will continue to afford pilots an alternative outlet to maintain their current life styles.
The contracts were quite different in the seventies. Management now has wide latitude in how they build monthly lines. At Delta as a example line construction can vary from 65 to 92.5 hours. Years ago it was a fixed value. The contracts also carry layered financial penalties for furloughing not subject to Force Majure. Delta carried a 600 pilot surplus for several years after the 2009 financial meltdown. Cost more to furlough.
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Originally Posted by Flytolive View Post
Fuel up again today. Bad for airlines in general, but especially for Norwegian. More cash they can't afford to burn.
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That post says more about you than it does Norwegian.
Really? What does it say about me?

I remember Independence Air guys not liking it either when it was pointed out that $.24 CASM and $.14 RASM was unsustainable. Norwegian's -31% Q1 operating margin isn't either.

But at least they are going to have 100% of their short haul flying 'electric' by 2040.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ectric-by-2040

Maybe they mean 100% of the ones they own by then.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...f-140-aircraft
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Originally Posted by Flytolive View Post

But at least they are going to have 100% of their short haul flying 'electric' by 2040.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ectric-by-2040

Maybe they mean 100% of the ones they own by then.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...f-140-aircraft
With 0 flights, it's easy to complete them all using electric planes.
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