OhSnapAF

They aren't scabs by definition, but lets not downplay the detriment they have caused to the US airline industry. Thank goodness they failed on their own, even when despite ALPA and other professional organizations outwardly coming out against Norwegian operating in the U.S., the government allowed them to operate. Good riddance...

NEDude

I will concede that perhaps for the next 2-4 years things may be difficult for them at a major. But the history shows that unless a person is an actual, honest to goodness, name on the "Jumpseat Protect List", scab, all will eventually be forgotten or forgiven. Even then there is a chance you could officially be forgiven as ALPA officially forgave the Continental scabs when ALPA realized they had a realistic chance of getting their money. Back in the early 2000s the internet message boards were alive with the rhetoric that the Freedom Air guys would end up on a list and never be able to get another job. Now barely anyone remembers what Freedom Air was, let alone remember that the guys were not supposed to get hired. Around 2005/2006, GoJet guys were the new bad guys, and the internet message boards were alive with the rhetoric that those guys will never get hired. Now, 13-14 years later, nobody cares whether someone was at GoJet.

Unless there is an economic downturn, or a 9/11 type catastrophic event, within then next 2-4 years most people will have forgotten about Norwegian and have moved on, and these guys will not have issues getting hired at majors/legacies.

sailingfun

This is correct. The word scab loses meaning when it’s misapplied.

PotatoChip

I have seen near zero actual detriment. In fact, in the same years that Norwegian has operated in the US, I have only seen positive trends for US pilots....

OhSnapAF

You don't think the current administration allowing them to operate the way they were, was a detriment to the airline industry?

Csy Mon

A downward Pressure on ticket prices?
Perhaps but they fly 787s nonstop from OSL to cities in the US, no direct competition there.
Yes, they tried 737 across the pond from NY, but sounds like a stupid idea to start with, not many pax wants to be stuck in a Fluf for 8 hours.

PotatoChip

Nope.
They tried it, it failed.
Next administration can reverse it if they would like.
I don’t support OSM, but they didn’t do anything illegal. And I’m glad the market forced them to fail.

rickair7777

x2. NAI not scabs.

rickair7777

There are still people out there affected by freedom or gojets who don't forget. Including me. Odds are low that you'll be in a position where you have to get through one of those people, but anything's possible. I have both lists, although I was only impacted by one of them.

I think NAI folks are less likely to have any issues because, because unlike the alter-ego union busters, they didn't directly impact any particular pilot group in a manner which can be directly linked back to them personally.

captjns

Plesae provide proven data to support your claim such as, but not limited to... US carriers going bust... layoffs/furloughs from AA, DAL, UAL, etc.... wage concessions by US pilots.