Cathay
07-11-2007, 06:16 AM
#21
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 10
LifeNtheFstLne,
Could you please email me your question pack at [email protected]. I don't have PM privileges yet but would like to take a look at the info. Thank-you,
Eric
Could you please email me your question pack at [email protected]. I don't have PM privileges yet but would like to take a look at the info. Thank-you,
Eric
07-11-2007, 10:32 PM
#22
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: B777 FO
Posts: 416
Ok guys, I'm two weeks in now so impressions could change but I doubt it. I have to say this place is extremely impressive. I've been treated very well with absolutely no American bashing. the company has actually made a policy to get rid of it. From what I understand it happened with the Canadians as well until they got more around. The group of guys that perpetuated that stuff have mostly moved on or are in the minority now.
The facility is incredible as well along with the financials of the company. We sat down with the training managers and some other management guys and asked some good questions. They aren't out to get you here. That being said, they expect a lot out of you. But the stuff about one failure and you're out is false. They do tell you up front that you will not be spoon fed the info but they provide more info than I have ever seen. It is just up to the individual to make use of it. Very little classroom work, lots of CBT and self study.
As for commuting in the states. It is true you cannot jumpseat, but you have passes on almost every carrier in N. America. Some other highlights include:
-No more Jepps to carry or update. They are all in the Aircraft
-No more flight bag....just a flashlight and a laptop if you want but not required.
-All aircraft manuals in the aircraft so no carrying that either.
-In HKG you meet your crew at CX City, clear security and customs here, then get driven directly to the aircraft by bus.
-All dispatch paperwork is available online in PDF format hours prior to departure, you can get it from home to look at before coming to the airport.
-Full pay from day one
-Allowance while in training is $4,500 HKD per week for the first three weeks then goes down 20% until LFUS (IOE). That comes out to around $575 USD per week on top of salary. This is given to you at the front desk in cash every weekend. The reason for the drop is because they figure after three weeks you know your way around and can get better deals. Either way, you would have to work really hard to spend it, even eating in CX City every day.
-Uniforms are given to you, no payroll deduct or anything. Six shirts, 3 pants, belt, jacket, overcoat, hat and wings.
-Vacation days from Day one. I showed up mid year so I get 21 days of vacation this year. Since I can't use it in training it will carry over to next year. That gives me 9 weeks of vacation in 2008, plus every 4 month period you get a block of 5 days off you can request for anything. They have to be taken in the block though, not spilt up. It makes it nice to get days off for an anniversary or something without having to use leave.
-The company has only lost money twice in 60 years and has a 30% debt to equity ratio. They have enough cash on hand to stay in business for 15 months if they did not make a cent in revenue and continued on their current schedule.
-Hmmm.....lots of eye candy running around which doesn't hurt!
All in all I am very happy so far. Got a little green Koolaid I'm sure but on a comparison basis it beats just about all US carriers except for a few on stability etc. Plus it is nice hanging out with guys from all over. So far I have been hanging with 2 Canadians, a Swede, a Brit, a S. African, a New Zealander, an Iranian, an Iraqi, and a couple Americans.
Don't believe too much on PPRune. With all the nationalities they have to be a bit anal about procedures etc. Any slang with a mix of these guys could easily get missunderstood so procedures have to be strict.
Anyway, come to the interview and see for yourself. Judge after the SECOND interview though. You can't really get a feel for the place until you come here to HKG and talk with the guys. That's all for now!
The facility is incredible as well along with the financials of the company. We sat down with the training managers and some other management guys and asked some good questions. They aren't out to get you here. That being said, they expect a lot out of you. But the stuff about one failure and you're out is false. They do tell you up front that you will not be spoon fed the info but they provide more info than I have ever seen. It is just up to the individual to make use of it. Very little classroom work, lots of CBT and self study.
As for commuting in the states. It is true you cannot jumpseat, but you have passes on almost every carrier in N. America. Some other highlights include:
-No more Jepps to carry or update. They are all in the Aircraft
-No more flight bag....just a flashlight and a laptop if you want but not required.
-All aircraft manuals in the aircraft so no carrying that either.
-In HKG you meet your crew at CX City, clear security and customs here, then get driven directly to the aircraft by bus.
-All dispatch paperwork is available online in PDF format hours prior to departure, you can get it from home to look at before coming to the airport.
-Full pay from day one
-Allowance while in training is $4,500 HKD per week for the first three weeks then goes down 20% until LFUS (IOE). That comes out to around $575 USD per week on top of salary. This is given to you at the front desk in cash every weekend. The reason for the drop is because they figure after three weeks you know your way around and can get better deals. Either way, you would have to work really hard to spend it, even eating in CX City every day.
-Uniforms are given to you, no payroll deduct or anything. Six shirts, 3 pants, belt, jacket, overcoat, hat and wings.
-Vacation days from Day one. I showed up mid year so I get 21 days of vacation this year. Since I can't use it in training it will carry over to next year. That gives me 9 weeks of vacation in 2008, plus every 4 month period you get a block of 5 days off you can request for anything. They have to be taken in the block though, not spilt up. It makes it nice to get days off for an anniversary or something without having to use leave.
-The company has only lost money twice in 60 years and has a 30% debt to equity ratio. They have enough cash on hand to stay in business for 15 months if they did not make a cent in revenue and continued on their current schedule.
-Hmmm.....lots of eye candy running around which doesn't hurt!
All in all I am very happy so far. Got a little green Koolaid I'm sure but on a comparison basis it beats just about all US carriers except for a few on stability etc. Plus it is nice hanging out with guys from all over. So far I have been hanging with 2 Canadians, a Swede, a Brit, a S. African, a New Zealander, an Iranian, an Iraqi, and a couple Americans.
Don't believe too much on PPRune. With all the nationalities they have to be a bit anal about procedures etc. Any slang with a mix of these guys could easily get missunderstood so procedures have to be strict.
Anyway, come to the interview and see for yourself. Judge after the SECOND interview though. You can't really get a feel for the place until you come here to HKG and talk with the guys. That's all for now!
07-12-2007, 08:14 PM
#24
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 24
07-20-2007, 04:05 PM
#27
New Hire
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 6
Originally Posted by ryguy
Ok guys, I'm two weeks in now so impressions could change but I doubt it. I have to say this place is extremely impressive. I've been treated very well with absolutely no American bashing. the company has actually made a policy to get rid of it. From what I understand it happened with the Canadians as well until they got more around. The group of guys that perpetuated that stuff have mostly moved on or are in the minority now.
The facility is incredible as well along with the financials of the company. We sat down with the training managers and some other management guys and asked some good questions. They aren't out to get you here. That being said, they expect a lot out of you. But the stuff about one failure and you're out is false. They do tell you up front that you will not be spoon fed the info but they provide more info than I have ever seen. It is just up to the individual to make use of it. Very little classroom work, lots of CBT and self study.
As for commuting in the states. It is true you cannot jumpseat, but you have passes on almost every carrier in N. America. Some other highlights include:
-No more Jepps to carry or update. They are all in the Aircraft
-No more flight bag....just a flashlight and a laptop if you want but not required.
-All aircraft manuals in the aircraft so no carrying that either.
-In HKG you meet your crew at CX City, clear security and customs here, then get driven directly to the aircraft by bus.
-All dispatch paperwork is available online in PDF format hours prior to departure, you can get it from home to look at before coming to the airport.
-Full pay from day one
-Allowance while in training is $4,500 HKD per week for the first three weeks then goes down 20% until LFUS (IOE). That comes out to around $575 USD per week on top of salary. This is given to you at the front desk in cash every weekend. The reason for the drop is because they figure after three weeks you know your way around and can get better deals. Either way, you would have to work really hard to spend it, even eating in CX City every day.
-Uniforms are given to you, no payroll deduct or anything. Six shirts, 3 pants, belt, jacket, overcoat, hat and wings.
-Vacation days from Day one. I showed up mid year so I get 21 days of vacation this year. Since I can't use it in training it will carry over to next year. That gives me 9 weeks of vacation in 2008, plus every 4 month period you get a block of 5 days off you can request for anything. They have to be taken in the block though, not spilt up. It makes it nice to get days off for an anniversary or something without having to use leave.
-The company has only lost money twice in 60 years and has a 30% debt to equity ratio. They have enough cash on hand to stay in business for 15 months if they did not make a cent in revenue and continued on their current schedule.
-Hmmm.....lots of eye candy running around which doesn't hurt!
All in all I am very happy so far. Got a little green Koolaid I'm sure but on a comparison basis it beats just about all US carriers except for a few on stability etc. Plus it is nice hanging out with guys from all over. So far I have been hanging with 2 Canadians, a Swede, a Brit, a S. African, a New Zealander, an Iranian, an Iraqi, and a couple Americans.
Don't believe too much on PPRune. With all the nationalities they have to be a bit anal about procedures etc. Any slang with a mix of these guys could easily get missunderstood so procedures have to be strict.
Anyway, come to the interview and see for yourself. Judge after the SECOND interview though. You can't really get a feel for the place until you come here to HKG and talk with the guys. That's all for now!
The facility is incredible as well along with the financials of the company. We sat down with the training managers and some other management guys and asked some good questions. They aren't out to get you here. That being said, they expect a lot out of you. But the stuff about one failure and you're out is false. They do tell you up front that you will not be spoon fed the info but they provide more info than I have ever seen. It is just up to the individual to make use of it. Very little classroom work, lots of CBT and self study.
As for commuting in the states. It is true you cannot jumpseat, but you have passes on almost every carrier in N. America. Some other highlights include:
-No more Jepps to carry or update. They are all in the Aircraft
-No more flight bag....just a flashlight and a laptop if you want but not required.
-All aircraft manuals in the aircraft so no carrying that either.
-In HKG you meet your crew at CX City, clear security and customs here, then get driven directly to the aircraft by bus.
-All dispatch paperwork is available online in PDF format hours prior to departure, you can get it from home to look at before coming to the airport.
-Full pay from day one
-Allowance while in training is $4,500 HKD per week for the first three weeks then goes down 20% until LFUS (IOE). That comes out to around $575 USD per week on top of salary. This is given to you at the front desk in cash every weekend. The reason for the drop is because they figure after three weeks you know your way around and can get better deals. Either way, you would have to work really hard to spend it, even eating in CX City every day.
-Uniforms are given to you, no payroll deduct or anything. Six shirts, 3 pants, belt, jacket, overcoat, hat and wings.
-Vacation days from Day one. I showed up mid year so I get 21 days of vacation this year. Since I can't use it in training it will carry over to next year. That gives me 9 weeks of vacation in 2008, plus every 4 month period you get a block of 5 days off you can request for anything. They have to be taken in the block though, not spilt up. It makes it nice to get days off for an anniversary or something without having to use leave.
-The company has only lost money twice in 60 years and has a 30% debt to equity ratio. They have enough cash on hand to stay in business for 15 months if they did not make a cent in revenue and continued on their current schedule.
-Hmmm.....lots of eye candy running around which doesn't hurt!
All in all I am very happy so far. Got a little green Koolaid I'm sure but on a comparison basis it beats just about all US carriers except for a few on stability etc. Plus it is nice hanging out with guys from all over. So far I have been hanging with 2 Canadians, a Swede, a Brit, a S. African, a New Zealander, an Iranian, an Iraqi, and a couple Americans.
Don't believe too much on PPRune. With all the nationalities they have to be a bit anal about procedures etc. Any slang with a mix of these guys could easily get missunderstood so procedures have to be strict.
Anyway, come to the interview and see for yourself. Judge after the SECOND interview though. You can't really get a feel for the place until you come here to HKG and talk with the guys. That's all for now!
thanks
07-20-2007, 05:39 PM
#28
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 44
Originally Posted by ryguy
Ok guys, I'm two weeks in now so impressions could change but I doubt it. I have to say this place is extremely impressive. I've been treated very well with absolutely no American bashing. the company has actually made a policy to get rid of it. From what I understand it happened with the Canadians as well until they got more around. The group of guys that perpetuated that stuff have mostly moved on or are in the minority now.
The facility is incredible as well along with the financials of the company. We sat down with the training managers and some other management guys and asked some good questions. They aren't out to get you here. That being said, they expect a lot out of you. But the stuff about one failure and you're out is false. They do tell you up front that you will not be spoon fed the info but they provide more info than I have ever seen. It is just up to the individual to make use of it. Very little classroom work, lots of CBT and self study.
As for commuting in the states. It is true you cannot jumpseat, but you have passes on almost every carrier in N. America. Some other highlights include:
-No more Jepps to carry or update. They are all in the Aircraft
-No more flight bag....just a flashlight and a laptop if you want but not required.
-All aircraft manuals in the aircraft so no carrying that either.
-In HKG you meet your crew at CX City, clear security and customs here, then get driven directly to the aircraft by bus.
-All dispatch paperwork is available online in PDF format hours prior to departure, you can get it from home to look at before coming to the airport.
-Full pay from day one
-Allowance while in training is $4,500 HKD per week for the first three weeks then goes down 20% until LFUS (IOE). That comes out to around $575 USD per week on top of salary. This is given to you at the front desk in cash every weekend. The reason for the drop is because they figure after three weeks you know your way around and can get better deals. Either way, you would have to work really hard to spend it, even eating in CX City every day.
-Uniforms are given to you, no payroll deduct or anything. Six shirts, 3 pants, belt, jacket, overcoat, hat and wings.
-Vacation days from Day one. I showed up mid year so I get 21 days of vacation this year. Since I can't use it in training it will carry over to next year. That gives me 9 weeks of vacation in 2008, plus every 4 month period you get a block of 5 days off you can request for anything. They have to be taken in the block though, not spilt up. It makes it nice to get days off for an anniversary or something without having to use leave.
-The company has only lost money twice in 60 years and has a 30% debt to equity ratio. They have enough cash on hand to stay in business for 15 months if they did not make a cent in revenue and continued on their current schedule.
-Hmmm.....lots of eye candy running around which doesn't hurt!
All in all I am very happy so far. Got a little green Koolaid I'm sure but on a comparison basis it beats just about all US carriers except for a few on stability etc. Plus it is nice hanging out with guys from all over. So far I have been hanging with 2 Canadians, a Swede, a Brit, a S. African, a New Zealander, an Iranian, an Iraqi, and a couple Americans.
Don't believe too much on PPRune. With all the nationalities they have to be a bit anal about procedures etc. Any slang with a mix of these guys could easily get missunderstood so procedures have to be strict.
Anyway, come to the interview and see for yourself. Judge after the SECOND interview though. You can't really get a feel for the place until you come here to HKG and talk with the guys. That's all for now!
The facility is incredible as well along with the financials of the company. We sat down with the training managers and some other management guys and asked some good questions. They aren't out to get you here. That being said, they expect a lot out of you. But the stuff about one failure and you're out is false. They do tell you up front that you will not be spoon fed the info but they provide more info than I have ever seen. It is just up to the individual to make use of it. Very little classroom work, lots of CBT and self study.
As for commuting in the states. It is true you cannot jumpseat, but you have passes on almost every carrier in N. America. Some other highlights include:
-No more Jepps to carry or update. They are all in the Aircraft
-No more flight bag....just a flashlight and a laptop if you want but not required.
-All aircraft manuals in the aircraft so no carrying that either.
-In HKG you meet your crew at CX City, clear security and customs here, then get driven directly to the aircraft by bus.
-All dispatch paperwork is available online in PDF format hours prior to departure, you can get it from home to look at before coming to the airport.
-Full pay from day one
-Allowance while in training is $4,500 HKD per week for the first three weeks then goes down 20% until LFUS (IOE). That comes out to around $575 USD per week on top of salary. This is given to you at the front desk in cash every weekend. The reason for the drop is because they figure after three weeks you know your way around and can get better deals. Either way, you would have to work really hard to spend it, even eating in CX City every day.
-Uniforms are given to you, no payroll deduct or anything. Six shirts, 3 pants, belt, jacket, overcoat, hat and wings.
-Vacation days from Day one. I showed up mid year so I get 21 days of vacation this year. Since I can't use it in training it will carry over to next year. That gives me 9 weeks of vacation in 2008, plus every 4 month period you get a block of 5 days off you can request for anything. They have to be taken in the block though, not spilt up. It makes it nice to get days off for an anniversary or something without having to use leave.
-The company has only lost money twice in 60 years and has a 30% debt to equity ratio. They have enough cash on hand to stay in business for 15 months if they did not make a cent in revenue and continued on their current schedule.
-Hmmm.....lots of eye candy running around which doesn't hurt!
All in all I am very happy so far. Got a little green Koolaid I'm sure but on a comparison basis it beats just about all US carriers except for a few on stability etc. Plus it is nice hanging out with guys from all over. So far I have been hanging with 2 Canadians, a Swede, a Brit, a S. African, a New Zealander, an Iranian, an Iraqi, and a couple Americans.
Don't believe too much on PPRune. With all the nationalities they have to be a bit anal about procedures etc. Any slang with a mix of these guys could easily get missunderstood so procedures have to be strict.
Anyway, come to the interview and see for yourself. Judge after the SECOND interview though. You can't really get a feel for the place until you come here to HKG and talk with the guys. That's all for now!
That is one of the finest posts about CX I have ever seen! Thank you!
07-21-2007, 02:39 AM
#29
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: B777 FO
Posts: 416
I created an email account for those wishing to ask questions. I'm right in the middle of the groundschool so it might take me a few days to reply.
[email protected]
As for the insurance question. Full medical through Cigna in the US with no monthly premium. So far from looking through it, it seems to be a good program.
[email protected]
As for the insurance question. Full medical through Cigna in the US with no monthly premium. So far from looking through it, it seems to be a good program.
Last edited by ryguy; 07-21-2007 at 02:41 AM. Reason: add info
07-21-2007, 12:33 PM
#30
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: Stretched Barbie Jet
Posts: 239
Originally Posted by ryguy
Ok guys, I'm two weeks in now so impressions could change but I doubt it. I have to say this place is extremely impressive. I've been treated very well with absolutely no American bashing. the company has actually made a policy to get rid of it. From what I understand it happened with the Canadians as well until they got more around. The group of guys that perpetuated that stuff have mostly moved on or are in the minority now.
The facility is incredible as well along with the financials of the company. We sat down with the training managers and some other management guys and asked some good questions. They aren't out to get you here. That being said, they expect a lot out of you. But the stuff about one failure and you're out is false. They do tell you up front that you will not be spoon fed the info but they provide more info than I have ever seen. It is just up to the individual to make use of it. Very little classroom work, lots of CBT and self study.
As for commuting in the states. It is true you cannot jumpseat, but you have passes on almost every carrier in N. America. Some other highlights include:
-No more Jepps to carry or update. They are all in the Aircraft
-No more flight bag....just a flashlight and a laptop if you want but not required.
-All aircraft manuals in the aircraft so no carrying that either.
-In HKG you meet your crew at CX City, clear security and customs here, then get driven directly to the aircraft by bus.
-All dispatch paperwork is available online in PDF format hours prior to departure, you can get it from home to look at before coming to the airport.
-Full pay from day one
-Allowance while in training is $4,500 HKD per week for the first three weeks then goes down 20% until LFUS (IOE). That comes out to around $575 USD per week on top of salary. This is given to you at the front desk in cash every weekend. The reason for the drop is because they figure after three weeks you know your way around and can get better deals. Either way, you would have to work really hard to spend it, even eating in CX City every day.
-Uniforms are given to you, no payroll deduct or anything. Six shirts, 3 pants, belt, jacket, overcoat, hat and wings.
-Vacation days from Day one. I showed up mid year so I get 21 days of vacation this year. Since I can't use it in training it will carry over to next year. That gives me 9 weeks of vacation in 2008, plus every 4 month period you get a block of 5 days off you can request for anything. They have to be taken in the block though, not spilt up. It makes it nice to get days off for an anniversary or something without having to use leave.
-The company has only lost money twice in 60 years and has a 30% debt to equity ratio. They have enough cash on hand to stay in business for 15 months if they did not make a cent in revenue and continued on their current schedule.
-Hmmm.....lots of eye candy running around which doesn't hurt!
All in all I am very happy so far. Got a little green Koolaid I'm sure but on a comparison basis it beats just about all US carriers except for a few on stability etc. Plus it is nice hanging out with guys from all over. So far I have been hanging with 2 Canadians, a Swede, a Brit, a S. African, a New Zealander, an Iranian, an Iraqi, and a couple Americans.
Don't believe too much on PPRune. With all the nationalities they have to be a bit anal about procedures etc. Any slang with a mix of these guys could easily get missunderstood so procedures have to be strict.
Anyway, come to the interview and see for yourself. Judge after the SECOND interview though. You can't really get a feel for the place until you come here to HKG and talk with the guys. That's all for now!
The facility is incredible as well along with the financials of the company. We sat down with the training managers and some other management guys and asked some good questions. They aren't out to get you here. That being said, they expect a lot out of you. But the stuff about one failure and you're out is false. They do tell you up front that you will not be spoon fed the info but they provide more info than I have ever seen. It is just up to the individual to make use of it. Very little classroom work, lots of CBT and self study.
As for commuting in the states. It is true you cannot jumpseat, but you have passes on almost every carrier in N. America. Some other highlights include:
-No more Jepps to carry or update. They are all in the Aircraft
-No more flight bag....just a flashlight and a laptop if you want but not required.
-All aircraft manuals in the aircraft so no carrying that either.
-In HKG you meet your crew at CX City, clear security and customs here, then get driven directly to the aircraft by bus.
-All dispatch paperwork is available online in PDF format hours prior to departure, you can get it from home to look at before coming to the airport.
-Full pay from day one
-Allowance while in training is $4,500 HKD per week for the first three weeks then goes down 20% until LFUS (IOE). That comes out to around $575 USD per week on top of salary. This is given to you at the front desk in cash every weekend. The reason for the drop is because they figure after three weeks you know your way around and can get better deals. Either way, you would have to work really hard to spend it, even eating in CX City every day.
-Uniforms are given to you, no payroll deduct or anything. Six shirts, 3 pants, belt, jacket, overcoat, hat and wings.
-Vacation days from Day one. I showed up mid year so I get 21 days of vacation this year. Since I can't use it in training it will carry over to next year. That gives me 9 weeks of vacation in 2008, plus every 4 month period you get a block of 5 days off you can request for anything. They have to be taken in the block though, not spilt up. It makes it nice to get days off for an anniversary or something without having to use leave.
-The company has only lost money twice in 60 years and has a 30% debt to equity ratio. They have enough cash on hand to stay in business for 15 months if they did not make a cent in revenue and continued on their current schedule.
-Hmmm.....lots of eye candy running around which doesn't hurt!
All in all I am very happy so far. Got a little green Koolaid I'm sure but on a comparison basis it beats just about all US carriers except for a few on stability etc. Plus it is nice hanging out with guys from all over. So far I have been hanging with 2 Canadians, a Swede, a Brit, a S. African, a New Zealander, an Iranian, an Iraqi, and a couple Americans.
Don't believe too much on PPRune. With all the nationalities they have to be a bit anal about procedures etc. Any slang with a mix of these guys could easily get missunderstood so procedures have to be strict.
Anyway, come to the interview and see for yourself. Judge after the SECOND interview though. You can't really get a feel for the place until you come here to HKG and talk with the guys. That's all for now!
That sounds like heaven.
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