Emirates 777 Take-Off Incident
12-29-2021, 03:05 AM
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Emirates 777 Take-Off Incident
Emirates 777 Take-Off Incident
https://onemileatatime.com/news/emir...ht-washington/
https://www.godsavethepoints.com/emi...eoff-incident/
https://onemileatatime.com/news/emir...ht-washington/
https://www.godsavethepoints.com/emi...eoff-incident/
12-29-2021, 10:31 AM
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Yeah, one of them should of caught it on the cockpit setup, then another opportunity as a checklist item. Then you have the event of flying into the dirt, waiting for the flight director, all kinds of fail going on.
Just parked at the gate, I like to leave the MCP altitude window set 100’ below expected initial clearance altitude, no zero or field elevation. Of course there isn’t anything required, only personal technique.
Yes, going over the departure clearance is very basic for a 121 flight.
Just parked at the gate, I like to leave the MCP altitude window set 100’ below expected initial clearance altitude, no zero or field elevation. Of course there isn’t anything required, only personal technique.
Yes, going over the departure clearance is very basic for a 121 flight.
12-29-2021, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sourdough44
Yeah, one of them should of caught it on the cockpit setup, then another opportunity as a checklist item. Then you have the event of flying into the dirt, waiting for the flight director, all kinds of fail going on.
Just parked at the gate, I like to leave the MCP altitude window set 100’ below expected initial clearance altitude, no zero or field elevation. Of course there isn’t anything required, only personal technique.
Yes, going over the departure clearance is very basic for a 121 flight.
Just parked at the gate, I like to leave the MCP altitude window set 100’ below expected initial clearance altitude, no zero or field elevation. Of course there isn’t anything required, only personal technique.
Yes, going over the departure clearance is very basic for a 121 flight.
12-29-2021, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 4dalulz
Some serious magenta slavery going on if you're so dedicated to that worthless FD that you'll drive the jet into the dirt at 200 knots.
Hopefully these idiots have been fired and had their certs revoked.
Hopefully these idiots have been fired and had their certs revoked.
Looks like your wish came true. But it's not nice to wish that on another crew member without proper investigation. Fear culture is never a good idea even though I wouldn't expect anything different from Emirates
12-29-2021, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Blip
http://avherald.com/h?article=4f24b2d7&opt=0
Looks like your wish came true. But it's not nice to wish that on another crew member without proper investigation. Fear culture is never a good idea even though I wouldn't expect anything different from Emirates
Looks like your wish came true. But it's not nice to wish that on another crew member without proper investigation. Fear culture is never a good idea even though I wouldn't expect anything different from Emirates
12-29-2021, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Blip
http://avherald.com/h?article=4f24b2d7&opt=0
Looks like your wish came true. But it's not nice to wish that on another crew member without proper investigation. Fear culture is never a good idea even though I wouldn't expect anything different from Emirates
Looks like your wish came true. But it's not nice to wish that on another crew member without proper investigation. Fear culture is never a good idea even though I wouldn't expect anything different from Emirates
12-30-2021, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by paulcg77
I don't wish anything bad on any fellow professional, and I wasn't there, no idea what actually transpired and so I won't judge them until I read the report. With that said, and admitting that I've never been to DXB or flown on EK, I don't understand how any 773 PF could keep it on the ground while passing through 200+ KIAS, regardless of the automation or lack thereof. These guys appear to have rotated at the same Vr speed as the Concorde. Bizarro...
There are 2 checklists and few briefs that should catch this, and 4 crewmembers. All failed.
12-30-2021, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
If your MCP is within 20ft of current elevation, and you flip your F/D on, it goes on in ALT mode and wants to capture that altitude.
There are 2 checklists and few briefs that should catch this, and 4 crewmembers. All failed.
There are 2 checklists and few briefs that should catch this, and 4 crewmembers. All failed.
12-30-2021, 04:10 PM
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I don't believe the plots are correct about not rotating until 200 KIAS. I ran the OPT numbers with a guess at their weight and it would have been a Vr around 175 KIAS with a V2 of 181, so a slow rotation rate would have one in the high 100s and still be on the ground. Inside scoop is saying that social media is making this sound much worse than it was. A screw up for sure and there was a Flap overspeed, but there was no GPWS "Don't Sink". There was a level segment at approximately 300' until they sorted out the mistake, apparently. That's what I am hearing, but not verified.
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