The Norwegian Cockroach
11-10-2020, 05:52 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by powersmurfuk1
Out of interest, anyone know what SAS position is?
All my friends working there have been let go, not furlough, they will have to re-apply. Everyone since 2001 has been let go, all while they are using SAS Ireland doing the flying.
11-11-2020, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad
Horrible... They are pretty much cancelling everything.
All my friends working there have been let go, not furlough, they will have to re-apply. Everyone since 2001 has been let go, all while they are using SAS Ireland doing the flying.
All my friends working there have been let go, not furlough, they will have to re-apply. Everyone since 2001 has been let go, all while they are using SAS Ireland doing the flying.
11-11-2020, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Norway as a domestic carrier? You were aware that the whole country only has a population somewhat over 5 million, with a million of those in Oslo itself? Spread out on 2000 inhabited islands?
And that by the time you get down to the tenth biggest “urban” area, you are talking under 50,000 population?
Once you get past the ten or twelve most populous areas a daily twin otter run would usually be more than adequate.
And that by the time you get down to the tenth biggest “urban” area, you are talking under 50,000 population?
Once you get past the ten or twelve most populous areas a daily twin otter run would usually be more than adequate.
11-11-2020, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by simuflite
Why are you asking me? I didn't write the article, boomer.
and get off my lawn, sonny...
11-22-2020, 06:08 PM
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11-23-2020, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad
Horrible... They are pretty much cancelling everything.
All my friends working there have been let go, not furlough, they will have to re-apply. Everyone since 2001 has been let go, all while they are using SAS Ireland doing the flying.
All my friends working there have been let go, not furlough, they will have to re-apply. Everyone since 2001 has been let go, all while they are using SAS Ireland doing the flying.
Won't be sad to see them go... their kind of regulatory and labor shell game would be a very bad precedent. Probably more for Europe than the US.
11-23-2020, 10:29 AM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidni...h=50d290671ecd
Looks like their only paths forward are liquidation or conversion to a narrow domestic focus. Their global days are over, hopefully for good. If the Norwegians want their flight crews and mx outsourced through offshore shell companies, that's their business, they can keep it.
Looks like their only paths forward are liquidation or conversion to a narrow domestic focus. Their global days are over, hopefully for good. If the Norwegians want their flight crews and mx outsourced through offshore shell companies, that's their business, they can keep it.
11-23-2020, 01:16 PM
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Looks like a walk along the edge of a cliff. Without being cruel to the people, another company going away would simply strengthen the survivors, when Covid-19 recovery is a distant memory. May the winds blow off the cliff.
11-26-2020, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidni...h=50d290671ecd
Looks like their only paths forward are liquidation or conversion to a narrow domestic focus. Their global days are over, hopefully for good. If the Norwegians want their flight crews and mx outsourced through offshore shell companies, that's their business, they can keep it.
Looks like their only paths forward are liquidation or conversion to a narrow domestic focus. Their global days are over, hopefully for good. If the Norwegians want their flight crews and mx outsourced through offshore shell companies, that's their business, they can keep it.
BTW, the pilot contracts have nothing to do with where the certificate or holding company is located, it has to do with where the crew is actually based. SAS crews in Copenhagen operate under a different contract and different union than SAS crews in Stockholm, and both are different than the contract and union the SAS crews based in Oslo operate under. NAI 737 crews who were based in Copenhagen operated under the same union and contract as NAS 737 crews based in Copenhagen. NAS crews based in Copenhagen operate under different contracts and unions than the NAS crews based in Oslo. British Airways A320 pilots based in Gatwick operate under a different contract than British Airways A320 pilots based in Heathrow even though they operate under the same union. A senior BA 747 FO based in Heathrow would lose his or her job before a more junior A320 FO based in Gatwick simply because of where the fleet reductions were coming from. When Aer Lingus has crews based in Belfast, they operated under a different contract and union than the crews based in Dublin.
Not defending the system at all. But Europe is a VERY different animal than the US. Most US pilots would not recognize how things work over here with regards to union contracts, seniority, bidding, etc.
11-26-2020, 07:50 AM
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So what’s the consensus? Is the Irish court going to help them out or are they in for liquidation? What are the odds of another company (say SAS) buying the company?
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