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TheOak 05-20-2008 08:05 PM

Azul Airlines (Brasil)
 
http://www.businessweek.com/innovate...d=rss_innovate

if anyone has any additional information on Azul, it would be appreciated.
(ie: forecasted start dates, websites, treatment of pilotos Americanos em Brasil (ERJ crash with GOL) , other b.s., etc)

Situation:
I love the country, but have only heard horror stories regarding career moves there. currently a senior FO for a regional in the US

TheOak 05-20-2008 08:20 PM

just found this.
http://www.voceescolhe.com.br

Bri85 05-20-2008 08:33 PM

From what Ive been told, - to be hired you need to be a resident, speak the language, and the pay is just as bad if not worst when compared to the regionals.

TheOak 05-21-2008 03:39 AM

Thanks Bri

serious flyer 05-22-2008 10:56 AM

You have to be a Brazilian Citizen to work on Brazilian Airlines.
SF

jet320 05-22-2008 11:19 AM

[quote=serious flyer;388659]You have to be a Brazilian Citizen to work on Brazilian Airlines.



Not only that, benefits, salaries and everything as a hole is not the same as USA. They won't pay, what they are paying in USA Industry.

jmackin 05-22-2008 01:32 PM

[quote=jet320;388690]

Originally Posted by serious flyer (Post 388659)
You have to be a Brazilian Citizen to work on Brazilian Airlines.



Not only that, benefits, salaries and everything as a hole is not the same as USA. They won't pay, what they are paying in USA Industry.

Curious to know what a Brazilian pilot's QOL is compared to the rest of Brazilian people. I know pay isn't that great but curious to see local QOL.

Bri85 05-22-2008 01:44 PM

[quote=jmackin;388805]

Originally Posted by jet320 (Post 388690)

Curious to know what a Brazilian pilot's QOL is compared to the rest of Brazilian people. I know pay isn't that great but curious to see local QOL.

brasil has a small middle class compare to the rest of the population, its middle class is growing rapidly but most of the population is poor- Is pretty much you are either dirt poor- or stupidly rich. i met a brasilian pilot that came here to the states to study english, and thats what he told me. As for QOL eventually youll be in the top tier of middle class; but youll have to struggle day by day for many years to get there. plus work ethics and regulations does not exist down there.

DANCRJ 05-22-2008 03:17 PM

[quote=Bri85;388813]

Originally Posted by jmackin (Post 388805)

brasil has a small middle class compare to the rest of the population, its middle class is growing rapidly but most of the population is poor- Is pretty much you are either dirt poor- or stupidly rich. i met a brasilian pilot that came here to the states to study english, and thats what he told me. As for QOL eventually youll be in the top tier of middle class; but youll have to struggle day by day for many years to get there. plus work ethics and regulations does not exist down there.

You got it all wrong if you say they don't have work ethics and regulations does not exist down there........... They have their problems and regulations are are managed differently (flexible). What kind of work ethics regionals have in this country (with the exception of a few)? When I talk to people in south america, they complain about their situation and always tell you ohh.. you fly in the US how NICE ! Then I explain the reality of the airlines, specially the regionals and they just can't believe it. They can't believe the pay, the violations to the contract, lack of respect to the pilots at all levels. They can't believe me when I tell them how short vacations are here. Most coutnries down there, your first year yo get 2 full paid weeks and then with seniority goes up to a month easily.
If you work for a good major in the states, you're better here. I work for a regional, and if I could I would take a job down there in a heartbeat. QQL is always going to be better in south america, and Brazil is a beautiful contry with beautiful people (specially women). Being an Airline pilot gives you status and respect.

Golden Child 08-01-2013 03:37 PM

Let me ask a little more because I am a Brazilian raised here in the US and I flew for a regional for a little while a couple years back. Is Azul or TAM still hiring ex-pats? What are the qualifications? What's the news on the upgrades and pay?

Thanks in advanced.


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