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BigToe 07-31-2008 04:32 PM

ANA JP Express or Air Japan??
 
I was offered a choice to apply with ana/jp express or with air japan. The xpress side is the cargo side and air japan is the pax side.

This is a job through one of the contract companies.

Looking mostly for info on comuting back home and days off.

Thanks

LostInAsia 07-31-2008 05:03 PM

What kind of information are you looking for?

I am on the AJX contract and your commuting options are either to take $2000 per month in cash and buy your own ticket (either ZED or regular ticket) or have the company buy you a business class ticket to your home. You choose month to month. This month I took the money, next month I am having the company buy me a business class ticket. Those are your only options....There is no jumpseating.

Air Japan will give you 10 consecutive days off per month, AJV will give you 11. You have 24 vacation days per year to use as you want. Some guys take 2 days per month, some take it bigger blocks. This company is outstanding in being flexible with your schedule.

Given all that is going on with the industry back home, this has to be one of the best places to be right now. Hopefully it will stay that way.

SKMarz 07-31-2008 05:07 PM

I was wondering whether there is any option of living in Japan. If so, do they allow you to have the commuting money to be applied toward housing? Are there many people who exercise this option? Also, if you do commute, do you have to commute in on days off?

Thank you in advance for any information.

BigToe 07-31-2008 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by LostInAsia (Post 436736)
What kind of information are you looking for?

I am on the AJX contract and your commuting options are either to take $2000 per month in cash and buy your own ticket (either ZED or regular ticket) or have the company buy you a business class ticket to your home. You choose month to month. This month I took the money, next month I am having the company buy me a business class ticket. Those are your only options....There is no jumpseating.

Air Japan will give you 10 consecutive days off per month, AJV will give you 11. You have 24 vacation days per year to use as you want. Some guys take 2 days per month, some take it bigger blocks. This company is outstanding in being flexible with your schedule.

Given all that is going on with the industry back home, this has to be one of the best places to be right now. Hopefully it will stay that way.


in paragraph 2 you say "This company is outstanding in being flexible with your schedule." are you refering to the air japan or the cargo side??

Realistcally if i get on with the pax side will I be able to come to the states on my days off? Or is the pax side more for those that don't worry about comuting so much.

I know that on the cargo side it's a better for comutes to the states cause apparantly they guarantee you all your days off in a row.

I talked to the recruiter he said my package is ready to be sent to tokyo and relly need to decide on wich airline to go to.

Thanks all info helps

LostInAsia 07-31-2008 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by SKMarz (Post 436738)
I was wondering whether there is any option of living in Japan. If so, do they allow you to have the commuting money to be applied toward housing? Are there many people who exercise this option? Also, if you do commute, do you have to commute in on days off?

Thank you in advance for any information.

As of right now, this is a commuting contract only. There is one guy in the process of trying a residency option but I do not know the specifics or even if it will ultimately be allowed. I highly doubt you would get to keep the allowance for housing and you also will have to pay Japanese income tax. You do have to commute in on days off.

LostInAsia 07-31-2008 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by bigtoe (Post 436757)
in paragraph 2 you say "This company is outstanding in being flexible with your schedule." are you refering to the air japan or the cargo side??

Realistcally if i get on with the pax side will I be able to come to the states on my days off? Or is the pax side more for those that don't worry about comuting so much.

I know that on the cargo side it's a better for comutes to the states cause apparantly they guarantee you all your days off in a row.

I talked to the recruiter he said my package is ready to be sent to tokyo and relly need to decide on wich airline to go to.

Thanks all info helps

I can only speak to the Pax (AJX) side. I dont know anything about the cargo schedules.

Currently on the Pax side we have commuters from New York, Minnesota, LA and Hawaii. All of the guys have no problems with commuting to the US. PAX and cargo all have days off guaranteed in a row. You just get one extra day on the cargo side.

You will tell them what your choice of airline is but they may offer you a position with either. At least that was how it was when I interviewed. Either side is a pretty good deal.

Just something to think about. With the pay raise that we just got on the Pax side, there are some guys who's contracts are expiring that are leaving cargo to come back to the Pax side.

BigToe 07-31-2008 08:41 PM

thanks I sent you a PM lost in asia

jet320 08-01-2008 12:18 AM

How is the interview like?

LostInAsia 08-01-2008 06:09 AM

The interview is 99% your sim evaluation. They will send you a packet of profiles and procedures and they want to see you attempt to do it their way to the best of your ability. Even if it is not perfect, if you show that you are teachable and open to doing it their way, you should be ok. The actual interview is pretty much just getting to know you to see if you will fit in with their culture. The technical questions were few and very basic.

RawTriGuy 08-01-2008 11:52 AM

Lost

Great info... Thanks. Got a couple more questions for you.

How is your schedule when you are working? Is the company counting a 24 hour period off at an outstation as a day off for 24 in 7 issues?

Also how many hours are you flying a month. I noticed that the contract pay was for 70 hours. What is your monthly line average?

Are you on PAX or Cargo? How are the crews you fly with? Which contract company are you with? How do you like them?

Thanks,


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