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vagabond 10-13-2008 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by frozenboxhauler (Post 478469)
I think after 5-10 minutes trying to get through with no response, I would have kept looking for the light guns and just landed.
fbh

Would your answer change depending on whether you had human passengers or boxes in the back? Daylight or nighttime? Running out of gas? Weather deteriorating?

Just curious as to what factors you consider and how your mind works or is trained to work.

frozenboxhauler 10-14-2008 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by vagabond (Post 478479)
Would your answer change depending on whether you had human passengers or boxes in the back? Daylight or nighttime? Running out of gas? Weather deteriorating?

Just curious as to what factors you consider and how your mind works or is trained to work.

Hello,... If there was another controlled airport/approach control/enroute center nearby, I'd get them involved.

To answer your question, boxes/people, day/night, I would assume radio failure and once I determined it was on their end, I would look for light gun signals but would consider the airport to be uncontrolled. I would overfly the airport 500-1000 feet above pattern altitude to determine the landing runway, then enter the pattern and land.

Running out of gas/wx deteriorating,...I wouldn't even wait 5 minutes.
fbh

gliderdriver 10-15-2008 09:18 AM

You are right. Sometimes they crack me up too. English sometimes is a problem there. Especially for the Americans. I think are not as bad as China airspace, India, or Turkey however the Greeks got better the past few years but what can you do...There is no comparison between US and Greece even any other country in the world in every aspect of technology and simplicity. US was, is, and will be the Mekka of Aviation for sure.

olympic 10-27-2008 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by the turtle (Post 478366)
Ok I'll bite....

I was in Athens last month. Twice. We were given a heading from KAL VOR (I think) and we just asked if we were to expect vectors from here on in and he replied: Of course. What, you want me to fly it too?!

LOL that cracked me up.


Just for future flights into Greece.
When given a heading, set final nav setting, your 99% getting vectored to final.


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