Define "Jet Multi Crew"
11-10-2008, 06:45 PM
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Define "Jet Multi Crew"
Ive been looking around at some companies and was wondering about multi crew quals. I assume "Jet Multi Crew" refers to flights that require a second crew to fly. I just want to clarify. Also, whats a Frozen ATPL?
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11-11-2008, 01:05 AM
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Multi crew means more than one driver, so your ERJ counts. It clarifies the difference between transport jet time and single pilot jet time, usually referring to the military types.
You mention 'second crew', so perhaps that clarifies as normally second crew, to me, refers to ultra long haul's legal requirement.
Frozen ATPL is something they have in the UK and the like. One can write ones exams well before having the requisite time requirements and thus, your ATPL licence is 'frozen'. Cooky isn't it.
You mention 'second crew', so perhaps that clarifies as normally second crew, to me, refers to ultra long haul's legal requirement.
Frozen ATPL is something they have in the UK and the like. One can write ones exams well before having the requisite time requirements and thus, your ATPL licence is 'frozen'. Cooky isn't it.
11-11-2008, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by KoruPilot
Multi crew means more than one driver, so your ERJ counts. It clarifies the difference between transport jet time and single pilot jet time, usually referring to the military types.
You mention 'second crew', so perhaps that clarifies as normally second crew, to me, refers to ultra long haul's legal requirement.
Frozen ATPL is something they have in the UK and the like. One can write ones exams well before having the requisite time requirements and thus, your ATPL licence is 'frozen'. Cooky isn't it.
You mention 'second crew', so perhaps that clarifies as normally second crew, to me, refers to ultra long haul's legal requirement.
Frozen ATPL is something they have in the UK and the like. One can write ones exams well before having the requisite time requirements and thus, your ATPL licence is 'frozen'. Cooky isn't it.
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11-11-2008, 09:45 AM
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From what I've read most places over in Europe require their version of the ATP; unless it specifically states FAA certificate you would most likely have to convert all your ratings, I'm sure someone else can chime in on the details (or search for it on here, I think it's been discussed) but long story short it appears to be a lengthy and costly process. But again it can depend, and some places may accept FAA certs.
11-11-2008, 10:16 AM
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Frozen ATPL(as in frozen in England)
Check this link out. It explains a frozen ATPL.
Google Answers: Aviation: ICAO ATPL... what is it?
I hope this helps.
Google Answers: Aviation: ICAO ATPL... what is it?
I hope this helps.
11-12-2008, 07:47 PM
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Well mate, I'm Canadian and I'm pretty sure my American friends understand me, but I'll call a few and check.
ARL, as long as the place you are applying to is not a JAR (European) operator then your FAA ATPL will do just fine; ignore the 'frozen' bit as it doesn't concern you. Be careful as there are a number of operators in N Africa that require a JAR licence. As far as Asia your FAA ticket is sweet.
I fly for a Chinese carrier and converted my Canadian ATPL without a problem. I have used the same licence to convert to Bahraini, Saudi Arabian, Panamanian, FAA and New Zealand. It's not as convoluted as one might think.
Good luck.
ARL, as long as the place you are applying to is not a JAR (European) operator then your FAA ATPL will do just fine; ignore the 'frozen' bit as it doesn't concern you. Be careful as there are a number of operators in N Africa that require a JAR licence. As far as Asia your FAA ticket is sweet.
I fly for a Chinese carrier and converted my Canadian ATPL without a problem. I have used the same licence to convert to Bahraini, Saudi Arabian, Panamanian, FAA and New Zealand. It's not as convoluted as one might think.
Good luck.
11-12-2008, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ARL120384
So for me with a full ATP, just not the written, for purposes of an application what would that be defined as? I know some overseas carriers have the ATPL of Frozen ATPL?
Thanks guys
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Thanks guys
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If that's what the application requires, your are fine. If it says JAR ATPL, etc, you would need to do the conversion.
