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Originally Posted by DanR (Post 547437)

As for Dubai, the pay sounds nice but I don't think a 23 year old woman is going to be comfortable trying to find employment there.

-Dan

Why not? There are thousands of 23 year old women employed in Dubai.

TP

I suppose I shouldn't stereotype without doing my research but I'd really prefer that she not be stoned to death.

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Originally Posted by DanR (Post 548984)

I suppose I shouldn't stereotype without doing my research but I'd really prefer that she not be stoned to death.

You have obviously never been to Dubai. There are more expats here than locals.

And most of the 23 year girls are Filipina!

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Originally Posted by nicholasblonde (Post 541923)

Options I see as possibilities for you:

1) Flight Academies in China/India/UAE: I hear stay away from Pan-Am China...might check and see if there are others...Dubai Aerospace University and some place in Abu Dhabi were paying tons of $ to pro instructors last year...not sure what the reqs were but might as well check it out...

2) Canada: Not sure what their situation is up there, but they might still have a few foreign students training up there due to somewhat easier Canadian to JAR conversion process...look into Moncton Flight College and some other ones...an ATP is easy to convert FAA->Canadaian, but not sure on instructor certificates

3) I heard of some Cessna manufacturer-owned flight school in India...some Cessna test pilot from Wichita was trying to get me to go instruct for some huge amount of money in India on brand new G1000 172s...10 month contract...I have no idea if that's still going on...and flying initial PPL students around in rural India might not be the glamour you're seeking in an overseas flying experience

4) Africa--the wild west of aviation...not too many people know who is hiring or what they're looking for unless they've actually been there in person...people have gone there and come out (or not) with time on everything ranging from a 402 to a 742...I'm too tired to think of any companies right now, but there are some South African flight schools of good standing over there, and a few NGOs/charter co's with good equipment that might be good places to get on the ground and network from there...you could maybe check out Interair or Transafrik but in this day and age even they probably have type-rated candidates turning in resumes...there are rumors of cabbies in London with 2000 hours of time on 73s who still can't find jobs....go figure

5) This is probably what I'd do in ur shoes: find a US military aero club on base in Germany or Korea and get a job instructing there...you'd have to do an additional PT job of some sort to get status/SOFA card to be on base, but there are always jobs like cafeteria, bartending, med tech, etc. to be had...they have N-reg planes and decent payrates usually...you'd be training US servicemembers on well-maintained equipment...decent gig...if you're extremely interested let me know and I might be able to point u in the right direction...too tired to put up any details right now...

Hi Nicholas,

After you get some rest would you be able to PM me some places in Africa that I can look at? I have been searching for opportunities out that way with no luck yet... be good to get away from a while.

Thanks a lot!

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Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 549144)

You have obviously never been to Dubai. There are more expats here than locals.

i.e.

not all mideast countries are created equal....

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Originally Posted by nicholasblonde (Post 541923)

I am interested in this. Can you point me in the right direction?

Pick up a JP fleet guide and look at Botswana, S Africa, Kenya, Namibia. There are numerous employers flying single piston Cessna's into the Okavanga Delta. Sefofane and Delta would be a couple of the bigger ones, but you'd better pack a bag.

Solenta out of S Africa will hire none S Africans for various operations across the continent, including UN and Red Cross, as well as DHL (caravans, B1900's, ATR42's). They may want some time in the bush there.

PNG, or Papau New Guinee is where many Antipodean newbies end up; again, the JP Fleet guide should steer you in the right direction.

If you lady is an ESL person then Japan would be great, but you'd need the time. Somebody mentioned the Chinese domestic schools (perhaps in Zuhai?), and that might work. Some camps in Africa would hire her as well, but not to teach English, more cook/chamber maid thing.

Good luck and have fun.

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Originally Posted by DanR (Post 548984)

I suppose I shouldn't stereotype without doing my research but I'd really prefer that she not be stoned to death.

If you really are interested in finding a job overseas you d better start getting informed. and not rely on stereotypes to make your possible decisions.
it s valid for any country.
fyi, the authorites in the UAE have been pushing women to study and to get professional careers for years now.

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Originally Posted by saviboy (Post 551840)

If you really are interested in finding a job overseas you d better start getting informed. and not rely on stereotypes to make your possible decisions.

sage advice right there. im a big fan of the "don't knock it 'til you try it" mentality. remember, a lot of the negative info you hear is from people who come back disgruntled cuz it didnt work out for them or was not what they were expecting. not to discount their experience, everyone is different and it might not have been for them, but thousands up thousands of people make moves like this every year and are satisfied with their decisions. from talking to buddies out there now it is nothing like people make it out to be. just dont have sex on a public beach, that gets under the gov't skin :p