Emirates pulls the plug on the Pool
07-04-2009, 07:30 AM
#11
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There is little sound reasoning when you throw in the fact that EK will no longer accomodate your travels to Dubai.
Let's see: Congratulations, you did great on your interview! You're hired. Oh wait, it's been 18 months so buy yourself a ticket to get your @ss back here so we can have another chance at saying NO!
Not worth it in the least if you ask me. Besides, read up on the economic meltdown of Dubai before you head out there. That place is in worse shape than we are!
Let's see: Congratulations, you did great on your interview! You're hired. Oh wait, it's been 18 months so buy yourself a ticket to get your @ss back here so we can have another chance at saying NO!
Not worth it in the least if you ask me. Besides, read up on the economic meltdown of Dubai before you head out there. That place is in worse shape than we are!
07-04-2009, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueridger
Besides, read up on the economic meltdown of Dubai before you head out there. That place is in worse shape than we are!
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07-04-2009, 08:24 AM
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This is pretty ironic. I'm a bus skipper and a former CRJ skipper. The bus is much easier to fly with the auto thrust, normal law and such. It does take a bit to learn the laws and the backwards MCDU, but actually flying it is cake compared to the CRJ.
My FO on a recent trip "escaped" from EK, saying it was not a good place to be, especially in the 330, doing night turns to India without end. He is happy to be back in the USA.
He was a former ERJ skipper. Flew the bus quite well.
My FO on a recent trip "escaped" from EK, saying it was not a good place to be, especially in the 330, doing night turns to India without end. He is happy to be back in the USA.
He was a former ERJ skipper. Flew the bus quite well.
07-04-2009, 04:45 PM
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How many applicants actually go to EK with just RJ experience, I'm thinking it's mostly US pilots since the 737/A320 is the RJ of the rest of the world. Hmm........... a conspiracy?? Minus the absence of RNAV and AT, a CRJ and ERJ systems are the same as any other widebody airplane. I would buy "wide body or INT" experience but to exlude RJ pilots is BS.
07-05-2009, 03:58 AM
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IMO, EK changed the mins because they could. They currently have plenty of applicants that meet their new (totally random) requirements and they believe they will be able to meet their staffing needs that way.
As a former ERJ and current Airbus F/O, there are very few differences operationally. As a matter of fact, I think Embraer 'borrowed' much of their design philosophy from Airbus including the FMS. What I'm saying is the smaller ERJ was so similar that I think EK is full of it for using that as an excuse.
I am speculating now, but I believe a bigger issue may have been the format of the training. I am currently flying outside of the US (again) and the training- (manuals/captains/department) is far different than in the US. Technical knowledge is highly valued and much less emphasis placed on experience and aircraft handling. Their way is the ONLY way to do things and if you deviate even slightly, i.e. XYZ 123 on the missed vs. XYZ 123 on the missed approach, it's a debrief item.
It may be a huge disappointment to some right now, but I believe in a few years those that were slighted may be better off staying closer to home. The adjustment to the desert climate is the smallest adjustment you would’ve had to make.
As a former ERJ and current Airbus F/O, there are very few differences operationally. As a matter of fact, I think Embraer 'borrowed' much of their design philosophy from Airbus including the FMS. What I'm saying is the smaller ERJ was so similar that I think EK is full of it for using that as an excuse.
I am speculating now, but I believe a bigger issue may have been the format of the training. I am currently flying outside of the US (again) and the training- (manuals/captains/department) is far different than in the US. Technical knowledge is highly valued and much less emphasis placed on experience and aircraft handling. Their way is the ONLY way to do things and if you deviate even slightly, i.e. XYZ 123 on the missed vs. XYZ 123 on the missed approach, it's a debrief item.
It may be a huge disappointment to some right now, but I believe in a few years those that were slighted may be better off staying closer to home. The adjustment to the desert climate is the smallest adjustment you would’ve had to make.
07-05-2009, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 767200
That's what SOME TRIs/TREs would like to think. The reality is that for the most part, there was little or no training (more like "checking"...) and "top quality" courses like Cockpit for You which was a total disaster....
07-05-2009, 07:48 PM
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honestly Im not sure this is the worst thing for you guys, Im not sure that they wont be in BK proceedings soon. I actually thought it might be cool to live and work there some day, not so much now
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