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atpcliff 08-07-2009 02:50 PM

Qatar is Hiring
 
Hi!

And, they are hiring non-type rated guys, which is rather unusual.

pprune.org has a LOT of info on them.

Good luck!

cliff
NBO

Yeager08 08-07-2009 08:01 PM

atpcliff,

Thanks for the info. I went to pprune but I can't find info on Quatar.

Do you know if they hire through a contract office or do they deal with it?

Y.

isla mujeres 08-08-2009 04:15 AM

Yeager08,

It's Qatar, not Quatar. They are all over the middle east forum on Pprune.
Try again!!!!

Later,

atpcliff 08-08-2009 05:08 AM

Hi!

Qatar does their own hiring.

cliff
NBO
PS-One of our guys worked for them for 3? years. He liked the company. He didn't like Doha (too hot, and not home, and too expensive), and he didn't like how they paid non-Mzungus.

Readback 08-08-2009 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 658366)
Hi!

Qatar does their own hiring.

cliff
NBO
PS-One of our guys worked for them for 3? years. He liked the company. He didn't like Doha (too hot, and not home, and too expensive), and he didn't like how they paid non-Mzungus.

In training as a 777 DEC, so far, so good.

Don't believe everything you read on PPRUNE. The negative comes from a lot of frustration. There are pilots on the 320/330 who have been there 3 years and were not afforded a change to the 777. They are not happy as they see pilots "junior" to them being hired as DEC's.

The people I've met have been friendly. If you meet the qualifications, do not want to commute, and are looking for a permanent position until 65, apply on line.

It's not for everyone, but then, name me a job that is.

wmuflyboy 08-08-2009 04:37 PM

what is required for an ICAO ATPL??

Readback 08-08-2009 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by wmuflyboy (Post 658607)
what is required for an ICAO ATPL??

US ATP fits the bill.

One word of advice. If you get invited for an interview/sim eval, read "Ace The Pilot Technical Interview". It will help pass the 50 question written test.

Qatar Airways is growing rapidly. They will be taking delivery of 25 A320's and one B777 a month for 2years starting in Sept/Oct. They also have orders and options for 350s, 380s, and 787s. For exact numbers check Wikapedia.

There have been many management changes in flight ops and HR recently. The one constant is the man at the top, the CEO. He has been CEO since the airline's founding in 1994.

Qatar is an Islamic state, however it is not as conservative as Saudia Arabia or Kuwait. Women can drive and vote. Crime is extremely low. The population of Doha is 80% expat.

The position is not a commuting one. My suggestion to you is that if you are considering commuting to look elsewhere.

Housing is provided, for now that consists of fully furnished 3BR apt for Capt, 2BR for F/O. Captains have been given the option of taking the housing allowance (approx. US$3300/mo) and living off the local economy.

If you come with and open mind and plenty of patience you should do fine.

Good luck to all!!!

Yeager08 08-09-2009 07:42 AM

Readback,

Thanks for the info. I have a question, if you don't mind.
When filling out the application, did you really give them your spouse's, parents', in-laws', children's and sybling's passport numbers?
I think that's too much info, specially during the first stage of my application.
I might be willing to give that info once I'm offered employment.
Your thoughts(?)
Also, how long is the contract you have to sign for the type rating?
I guess that makes it 2 questions :)

Thanks again.

Y.

atpcliff 08-09-2009 08:33 AM

Hi!

3 years if no type. I would fill it out as completely as possible. If they don't like your application, I'm 100% sure they will not interview you.

cliff
NBO

PS-It sounds like you don't agree with their application philosophy. I suggest that you would not like flying for Qatar/living in Doha, so you should not apply. You have to be VERY flexible working and living in a foreign country, ESPECIALLY if you are American. It is not easy.

Yeager08 08-09-2009 08:58 AM

I am a very flexible pilot and employee but that's got nothing to do with me surrendering all that information to them. Also, I've lived in 3 countries growing up (Chile, Sweden and the US) each one of them very different from each other, so I have no problem being flexible and adapting to new environments and by the way, I'm not American.
Thanks for the feedback, though.

bubi352 08-09-2009 02:54 PM

That's totally normal. Some foreign airlines will even go as far as asking for a passport photo with the initial application. Forget about equal opportunity.

PurpleCRJ 08-09-2009 09:46 PM

i read "not for commuters." anyone know about pay, schedules, benefits . . .

TurboDVR42 08-09-2009 09:59 PM

Are they 100% strict on the jet time part. Or will they take/look at a pilot with t-prop time (less than 50k MTOW)?

Readback 08-10-2009 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by Yeager08 (Post 658851)
Readback,

Thanks for the info. I have a question, if you don't mind.
When filling out the application, did you really give them your spouse's, parents', in-laws', children's and sybling's passport numbers?
I think that's too much info, specially during the first stage of my application.
I might be willing to give that info once I'm offered employment.
Your thoughts(?)
Also, how long is the contract you have to sign for the type rating?
I guess that makes it 2 questions :)

Thanks again.

Y.

1st ques.- My feeling was if you want the job, give them the info.

2nd ques.- 3 yrs.

Good Luck!

LIOG41 08-10-2009 06:19 AM

Did anyone fill out the application electronically? I filled it out and then tried saving it, unfortunately couldn't save it come to find out so I am now hand-writing it out.

Readback 08-10-2009 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by TurboDVR42 (Post 659155)
Are they 100% strict on the jet time part. Or will they take/look at a pilot with t-prop time (less than 50k MTOW)?

Not sure, but you should understand that DEC positions are being filled with Capts. from other airlines SQ, Alitalia, Kingfisher, etc. with thousands of hours of jet command type.

F/O's are also from other airlines. If they aren't typed in the a/c eg. 320, you better have jet time 744, 767, etc.

As of this writing, I have not met anyone who was recently hired with a majority of turboprop time.

edznaz 08-10-2009 06:33 AM

You should be able to "print" to file and then send that document. IMHO something handwritten will immediately make the circular file.

LIOG41 08-10-2009 07:23 AM

Thanks, I forgot about that method...it works.

embflieger 08-12-2009 12:08 PM

I'm all for supplying requisite details, but can anyone hazard a guess as to why Qatar would like or need the passport numbers of my siblings and parents? The only thing I can conceive of is for travel benefit verification, which wouldn't really apply with an initial app.

Readback 08-12-2009 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by AirPloyment (Post 660868)
I know a couple people that work there. As long as you are sending it directly to Qatar airways and not a recruiter, it shouldn't be a problem. That is strange they want your siblings passport and documents, but it maybe to make sure that they haven't been relieved from the airline. That is purely speculation, but I have seen people get disqualified because their uncle/brother got let go and then they won't hire you. This is not any policy that I am aware of, just purely speculation.

Sibling and parent info is used for travel benefit data. I don't think you should read too much into this request.

In other words, "Stay away from the 'black helicopters'"!;)

ARGPILOT757 08-14-2009 10:19 AM

Qr Interview
 
Readback,
Since You Are In Training Right Now,do You Remember How Was Your Interview,the 50 Questions Quiz??
I Am Going For A Interview This Month.
Anyone Have More Info About The Interview Process Or Went There Already This Month, I Know There Is Interviews For F/o On The 10th,11th,12th,13th,17th,18th,24th,25th And 26th Aug.

Please Post Some Info.
Thanks In Advance

Ciao

HSLD 08-14-2009 10:29 AM

Check out the video from FlightPod TV about hiring scams:

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/

For every legit airline out there, there seem to be scams connecting themselves to legitimate airline hiring practices.

More than ever, buyer beware!

Readback 08-14-2009 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by ARGPILOT757 (Post 662122)
Readback,
Since You Are In Training Right Now,do You Remember How Was Your Interview,the 50 Questions Quiz??
I Am Going For A Interview This Month.
Anyone Have More Info About The Interview Process Or Went There Already This Month, I Know There Is Interviews For F/o On The 10th,11th,12th,13th,17th,18th,24th,25th And 26th Aug.

Please Post Some Info.
Thanks In Advance

Ciao

Cograts!

Captain or F/O?

My comments relate to DEC.

Read Ace The Pilot Technical Interview (if you can stay awake that long), it should help with the 50 question exam.

Interview was straight forward personal stuff, "Tell us about yourself", "Why QR?", "How do you see your career with QR progressing?". At the end of the interview they offered me a list of sim dates. (My test and interview was during a roadshow).

A fairly simple process really. Overall I would suggest relaxing and being yourself would benefit you the most during the interview.

Good luck!!!

LIOG41 08-15-2009 09:40 AM

Are they hiring for FO's or mainly DEC's at this point?

Readback 08-15-2009 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by AirPloyment (Post 662831)
But why would they request this information BEFORE you got hired? Then they would be unnecessarily acquiring documents of individuals who they are not going to give benefits to.

I know for a fact that qatar airways does not give your family benefits for traveling on their airline until after training. Only certain members get benefits at that point.

You might want to do some investigation before doubting my post.

Not doubting your post. In fact, I believe I confirmed the fact that the information was asked, and I offered an explanation.

If you choose not to submit the requested information on your application. That is your business.

Good luck on your career.

atpcliff 08-16-2009 05:47 AM

Hi!

That is interesting about asking for the info for travel benefits.
I just assumed that it was to check and see if any of your family was on a Qatari "terrorist" list, or something like that.

cliff
NBO

Typhoonpilot 08-16-2009 06:26 AM

I would guess that the requirement to list all relatives on the application is applied to ALL applicants to Qatar Airways. The reason most likely being that certain nationalities are known to lie about who their relatives are in order to get reduced rate travel for friends, perhaps making a few extra dollars for themselves in the process. If the full list of relatives is known in advance that makes it more difficult for employees from those certain countries to commit that kind of fraud.



Typhoonpilot

NEDude 08-16-2009 09:10 AM

How does it work if you are divorced, your children do not have passports, and they are not coming with you? Do you just leave that information blank?

Some questions that I cannot seem to find other places:

What is the compensation package like, and how does it differ between aircraft and/or seat?

How many vacation days per year?

Health insurance?

When you apply, do you apply for a specific aircraft and seat, like some other airlines, or just fill out the app and let them decide where to put you?

Thank you.

bubi352 08-16-2009 10:38 AM

You will find a lot more information on Pprune.org. Do a research there. There are plenty of pilots working there that you can message and who will gladly answer any questions.


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