Cathay Pacific
07-03-2010, 01:01 PM
#102
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: B777 FO
Posts: 416
Originally Posted by Ronin47
Hey Ry...just to follow up on a previous post. Since it seems alot of U.S. based pilots went to the 777, are the 74/U.S. guys understaffed? If so would the 74/Freighter out of ORD be an option for new hires with the 10 74-8's and the 11 74-BCF's on order?
Also, one more pay question...
APC says 1st. year FO is $6519.00 per month+(hourly)$400month?+%15 of 6519=$977.00? Soooo..$6519+400+977=$7896.00 per month once on-line...is that about right gents.for 1st year FO? And Im assuming it is just base salary while in training? Which is what 4months or so? Thanks in advance for any info. Just trying to pay the mortgage and raise the kids..lol
Also, one more pay question...
APC says 1st. year FO is $6519.00 per month+(hourly)$400month?+%15 of 6519=$977.00? Soooo..$6519+400+977=$7896.00 per month once on-line...is that about right gents.for 1st year FO? And Im assuming it is just base salary while in training? Which is what 4months or so? Thanks in advance for any info. Just trying to pay the mortgage and raise the kids..lol
If we are going to be short that is where it will be. It is hard to say though since to me we seem to be short but maybe not on total pilots on the fleet. Where we are understaffed is relief qualified FOs on the 744. I'm not sure how that translates to total FOs though. I will say that I've been flying with a lot of Second Officers lately which we hardly ever used to see on the freighter. I personally think we will see hiring before the official line says.
That pay projection is probably pretty close. Which is quite a bit higher than the old freighter scale was when I started. In training you get full regular pay, allowances (our version of per diem), retirement contribution, and hourly duty pay when you start flying on LFUS (our version of IOE). In other words you get full pay from day one.
Training for me was almost 4 months to the day. For a while after they were sending guys home more but I don't think that worked out as well. We'll have to see what they decide to do when we start up again.
07-03-2010, 01:59 PM
#103
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: Captain
Posts: 89
Originally Posted by ryguy
Hey Ronin,
If we are going to be short that is where it will be. It is hard to say though since to me we seem to be short but maybe not on total pilots on the fleet. Where we are understaffed is relief qualified FOs on the 744. I'm not sure how that translates to total FOs though. I will say that I've been flying with a lot of Second Officers lately which we hardly ever used to see on the freighter. I personally think we will see hiring before the official line says.
That pay projection is probably pretty close. Which is quite a bit higher than the old freighter scale was when I started. In training you get full regular pay, allowances (our version of per diem), retirement contribution, and hourly duty pay when you start flying on LFUS (our version of IOE). In other words you get full pay from day one.
Training for me was almost 4 months to the day. For a while after they were sending guys home more but I don't think that worked out as well. We'll have to see what they decide to do when we start up again.
If we are going to be short that is where it will be. It is hard to say though since to me we seem to be short but maybe not on total pilots on the fleet. Where we are understaffed is relief qualified FOs on the 744. I'm not sure how that translates to total FOs though. I will say that I've been flying with a lot of Second Officers lately which we hardly ever used to see on the freighter. I personally think we will see hiring before the official line says.
That pay projection is probably pretty close. Which is quite a bit higher than the old freighter scale was when I started. In training you get full regular pay, allowances (our version of per diem), retirement contribution, and hourly duty pay when you start flying on LFUS (our version of IOE). In other words you get full pay from day one.
Training for me was almost 4 months to the day. For a while after they were sending guys home more but I don't think that worked out as well. We'll have to see what they decide to do when we start up again.
07-05-2010, 11:34 AM
#104
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Joined APC: May 2006
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I guess as they take delivery of new Airplanes they are transfereing the same number of /400 to Air China.
Cathay Pacific will return its three remaining grounded freighters to full operation this summer, in response to higher demand for air cargo shipments.
The global downturn prompted the carrier to initially ground five freighters. Two have already returned to operations and will be transferred to the Air China Cargo joint-venture once it has received the necessary approvals and commences operation in the second half of 2010, a Cathay spokeswoman told IFW.
“The three remaining aircraft will return from the desert in June and July,” she said.
“All three require heavy maintenance, and so their return to operations will be gradual and phased-in during the second half, preferably to coincide with the seasonal peak from Hong Kong.
“They will be deployed on our network, consistent with our plan to re-instate frequencies trimmed during the 2009 downturn.”
She said the market outlook remained “broadly positive”, with robust demand expected on intra-Asia services and major trade lanes to North America and Europe.
“We are working hard to deploy our fleet as efficiently as possible to service that demand and, obviously, with the arrival of the first new Boeing 747-8F freighters in 2011 [six B747-8Fs will be delivered over the course of the year], we are presented with the opportunity to deploy more capacity next year,” she added.
A further two aircraft will leave the Cathay Pacific fleet in the first quarter of 2011 to be prepared for transfer to Air China Cargo in the first half of 2011.
Cathay Pacific will return its three remaining grounded freighters to full operation this summer, in response to higher demand for air cargo shipments.
The global downturn prompted the carrier to initially ground five freighters. Two have already returned to operations and will be transferred to the Air China Cargo joint-venture once it has received the necessary approvals and commences operation in the second half of 2010, a Cathay spokeswoman told IFW.
“The three remaining aircraft will return from the desert in June and July,” she said.
“All three require heavy maintenance, and so their return to operations will be gradual and phased-in during the second half, preferably to coincide with the seasonal peak from Hong Kong.
“They will be deployed on our network, consistent with our plan to re-instate frequencies trimmed during the 2009 downturn.”
She said the market outlook remained “broadly positive”, with robust demand expected on intra-Asia services and major trade lanes to North America and Europe.
“We are working hard to deploy our fleet as efficiently as possible to service that demand and, obviously, with the arrival of the first new Boeing 747-8F freighters in 2011 [six B747-8Fs will be delivered over the course of the year], we are presented with the opportunity to deploy more capacity next year,” she added.
A further two aircraft will leave the Cathay Pacific fleet in the first quarter of 2011 to be prepared for transfer to Air China Cargo in the first half of 2011.
07-06-2010, 05:40 AM
#106
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: Left Out
Posts: 188
All but one of the -400BCFs have been returned to service. The last is due out of Xiamen (heavy maintenance base) next week. Also, the first of the BCFs (4 total) that are being transferred to Air China have been delayed to August. There is some speculation that the Chinese government will not actually approve the joint venture.
Has the company actually decided, or announced, how many of those 330s are going to KA?
Hopefully there will be a massive new airplane order when, or soon after, Cathay announce the half year results. I think that happens the end of this month or early August.
FO
Has the company actually decided, or announced, how many of those 330s are going to KA?
Hopefully there will be a massive new airplane order when, or soon after, Cathay announce the half year results. I think that happens the end of this month or early August.
FO
07-09-2010, 10:48 AM
#107
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**Chicago Welcomes Inaugural Around-the-World Cathay Pacific Freighter
Flight
**Airline Increases Local Operations Staffing by 33 Percent to Handle New Flights
CHICAGO, USA -- Cathay Pacific Cargo is heading a new direction today. Quite literally.
The airline’s first ever trans-Atlantic flight departs Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport at 4:50 p.m. CDT en route to Amsterdam, Netherlands; Dubai, United Arab Emirates and then home to Hong Kong. It will have arrived Chicago from Hong Kong via Anchorage, Alaska, making it the airline’s first around-the-world flight as well.
The airline has spent months developing the new route, which will initially be operated twice weekly, every Friday and Sunday (when departures will be at 10:50 p.m. CDT), using a Boeing 747-400 freighter. Cathay Pacific already offers eight trans-Pacific freighter flights a week to Hong Kong from Chicago, providing traditional cargo services plus specialty services such as pharmaceutical and live animal handling.
“Chicago is a great gateway for this service and we expect the flights to do quite well,” said Stephen Wong, Cathay Pacific’s vice president for cargo, Americas. “We’ll be helping businesses from throughout the Midwest get their products to markets in Europe and the Middle East.”
Early demand for space on the new service is meeting expectations. Cathay Pacific expects to be carrying significant quantities of building materials to the Middle East, including product bound for reconstruction efforts in Afghanistan. Into Amsterdam, where there has been insufficient cargo capacity to meet demand for some time, the airline expects to carry computers, fabric, pharmaceuticals and livestock.
Cathay Pacific is increasing its locally-based cargo operations team by 33 percent to handle the new flights. Two new agents and a new supervisor will bring the cargo team to 12. Two locally-based Cathay Pacific engineers provide maintenance support for the flights as well.
“Now, whether your cargo needs are westbound or eastbound, Cathay Pacific Cargo merits serious consideration given our expanded services,” said Douglas Wahl, Cathay Pacific’s locally based cargo manager. “We can also arrange charters for customers who need service beyond our regularly scheduled flights.”
Cathay Pacific has been working hard to strengthen its services to and from Hong Kong in response to the recent global upswing in airfreight markets, and has just last week increased its weekly freighter service to Miami and Houston to four and five flights, respectively.
The airline is also reinforcing its commitment to the continued development of Hong Kong as a leading international air cargo hub through the construction of its own new cargo terminal and the continued expansion of its freighter fleet.
Development of the HK$5.5 billion (approximately US$705 million) Cathay Pacific Cargo Terminal at Hong Kong International is now underway, with the facility set to come into operation in 2013. The airline will add to its existing fleet by bringing online 10 Boeing 747-8F freighters on firm order with deliveries set to commence in January 2011.
In addition to Chicago, Houston and Miami, Cathay Pacific Cargo also offers freighter service to Hong Kong from Anchorage, Atlanta, Dallas/Fort Worth, Los Angeles, New York (JFK), San Francisco, Toronto and Vancouver. Within North America, Cathay Pacific also operates passenger aircraft with daily service to Hong Kong from Los Angeles, New York JFK, San Francisco, Toronto and Vancouver.
Flight
**Airline Increases Local Operations Staffing by 33 Percent to Handle New Flights
CHICAGO, USA -- Cathay Pacific Cargo is heading a new direction today. Quite literally.
The airline’s first ever trans-Atlantic flight departs Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport at 4:50 p.m. CDT en route to Amsterdam, Netherlands; Dubai, United Arab Emirates and then home to Hong Kong. It will have arrived Chicago from Hong Kong via Anchorage, Alaska, making it the airline’s first around-the-world flight as well.
The airline has spent months developing the new route, which will initially be operated twice weekly, every Friday and Sunday (when departures will be at 10:50 p.m. CDT), using a Boeing 747-400 freighter. Cathay Pacific already offers eight trans-Pacific freighter flights a week to Hong Kong from Chicago, providing traditional cargo services plus specialty services such as pharmaceutical and live animal handling.
“Chicago is a great gateway for this service and we expect the flights to do quite well,” said Stephen Wong, Cathay Pacific’s vice president for cargo, Americas. “We’ll be helping businesses from throughout the Midwest get their products to markets in Europe and the Middle East.”
Early demand for space on the new service is meeting expectations. Cathay Pacific expects to be carrying significant quantities of building materials to the Middle East, including product bound for reconstruction efforts in Afghanistan. Into Amsterdam, where there has been insufficient cargo capacity to meet demand for some time, the airline expects to carry computers, fabric, pharmaceuticals and livestock.
Cathay Pacific is increasing its locally-based cargo operations team by 33 percent to handle the new flights. Two new agents and a new supervisor will bring the cargo team to 12. Two locally-based Cathay Pacific engineers provide maintenance support for the flights as well.
“Now, whether your cargo needs are westbound or eastbound, Cathay Pacific Cargo merits serious consideration given our expanded services,” said Douglas Wahl, Cathay Pacific’s locally based cargo manager. “We can also arrange charters for customers who need service beyond our regularly scheduled flights.”
Cathay Pacific has been working hard to strengthen its services to and from Hong Kong in response to the recent global upswing in airfreight markets, and has just last week increased its weekly freighter service to Miami and Houston to four and five flights, respectively.
The airline is also reinforcing its commitment to the continued development of Hong Kong as a leading international air cargo hub through the construction of its own new cargo terminal and the continued expansion of its freighter fleet.
Development of the HK$5.5 billion (approximately US$705 million) Cathay Pacific Cargo Terminal at Hong Kong International is now underway, with the facility set to come into operation in 2013. The airline will add to its existing fleet by bringing online 10 Boeing 747-8F freighters on firm order with deliveries set to commence in January 2011.
In addition to Chicago, Houston and Miami, Cathay Pacific Cargo also offers freighter service to Hong Kong from Anchorage, Atlanta, Dallas/Fort Worth, Los Angeles, New York (JFK), San Francisco, Toronto and Vancouver. Within North America, Cathay Pacific also operates passenger aircraft with daily service to Hong Kong from Los Angeles, New York JFK, San Francisco, Toronto and Vancouver.
07-10-2010, 10:27 AM
#110
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Position: Left Out
Posts: 188
Have not heard about that either but it would not surprise me. The CEO has stated that at this time CX is not interested in ordering any new VLAs...-8s or the 380. This could be to replace 6 of the most tired -400s already in service, or dare I say....growth.
Where did you read that?
FO
Where did you read that?
FO
Last edited by 4everFO; 07-10-2010 at 10:45 AM.
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