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mowiepilot 09-16-2006 10:00 AM

Are the 777s going to replace the 767 fleet? So when they are hiring they at least look at with a CPL huh?. Doesn't matter I have both FAA & CAA ATPLs. So Freedom Air is expanding as well then, are they going to keep A320s?

KoruPilot 09-16-2006 10:36 AM

The 777's have replaced the 767 and 747 on some routes, but it's not really supposed to be a 767 replacement across the board. We are, as far as I know, keeping the remaining six 767's for the forseable future to do the pacific routes. The 767 is a great plane for the discount routes, ie: you can fill it full of punters going for some sun and it makes money, hence, I believe, the intention to put it into service with Freedom. As far as the pilots are concerned this would be with mainline drivers. The Freedom/Zeal320 deal with the pilots is set up to protect mainline jobs; they hire one Freedom pilot for five of us, or something like that (can't remember the number). All the A320's are now with Zeal320 (replaceing freedom) and all the flight attendants on those birds are freedom/zeal. So the A320's we have stay in that operation. They sent a couple back, but not sure if they will sell off any more. If this code share with QF across the Tasman goes ahead it will affect pilot numbers. They are also reviewing Tahiti and appear to not like Hawaii at the moment. Not too sure why they cancelled Singapore as the flights have been pretty chokka other then during low season; someone should have explained low season I guess. Likely they don't want to compete against themselves with the new London run through Hong Kong. They have the crystal ball so know better then me. But if Tahiti goes, and with the age sixty rule coming in, plus the Tasman, my best guess would be a couple of years before they do any real hiring again so at least the guys on yes letters are picked up. Now that I said that I'll probably be in the left seat of a 737 next year.

The extra Freedom flying, if it happens, will likely be because they replave the Koru with yellow tails on existing leisure routes, and possibly more so across the Tasman.

No, you don't require an ATPL. They have hired recently with commercials, but as far as I know those were ex military guys.

mowiepilot 09-16-2006 12:39 PM

koru thanks for the info. Yeah it did seem like Singapore was doing well. It seems that they have always had the 2 light season HNL, and then the 3 flights during the heavy. Is the 737 doing Tahiti from Tonga and Fiji or is that 767 route?

KoruPilot 09-16-2006 10:34 PM

Tahiti is only done with the 767. We do a through flight that stops in Rarotonga on the way, then Tahiti and on to LAX. There are double bangers from Auckland with the 767 as well but I try to avoit them as they are all nighters. On the 737 the crew pax to Rarotonga, layover, then do Raro-Tonga-Auckland(or is it Fiji, can;t remember and don't fly it). The 767 does either Apia, Fiji or Raoro-Tahiti, then on to LAX and back through one of those stops on the way back. We can layover in the islands for up to three days so the trip is 6 to 9 days depending. The HNL layover is my favorite if it's the four dayer. Outstanding for the surfing (not good enough for Tahiti break I'm afraid). Good lifestyle but all the paxing means no insentive pay. Hopefully we're all on the 777 (that's what we've heard is happening) by early next year as I much prefer the Orient runs.

Like I said, all in all great company to work for, and from what I've seen in my past flying pretty flash training. I

UrlocalAZN 10-29-2006 11:59 PM

Help please...
Hey guys, Im only 14yrs old but I already know that I wanna become an airline pilot. Ive been dreaming about becoming one since I was six. Theres a problem though; I live in New Zealand and they arent many choices as to how to become pilots. There are plenty of flying schools here but only one university offering a degree in aviation. I dont know if flying schools are the way to go because Ive read somewhere that you have to have a degree to have an airline pilot job. Theres another problem, there is only one airline in New Zealand.. I think. My parents say that it will be a waste of time but I dont want to give up on my dreams. Is there anybody out there that can offer me with some help??? cheers.

KoruPilot 11-02-2006 09:32 PM

You ca't pm me yet so drop me an email at [email protected] and I'll try my best to answer your questions. I was in the same boat growing up, with parents who didn't know or want to know anything about me going flying. They came round though and ended up my biggest supporeters. You require some post secondary for Air NZ, but not a degree; that said there are a couple pilots who have been hired recently with no post secondary. I had two years and lots of big turbine command, and they hired me. It's an excellent company to work for and a great lifestyle, but it is alot of work getting there. Too much to explain here so send me an email and I'll fill you in better. My wife went to Massey and now flies the 744 for Air NZ by the way, so that program does help you along.


SupaflyGuy 01-23-2012 06:09 AM

Good morning! Very interesting thread. I am an american who visited the south island of New Zealand a month ago and immediately fell in love with your country. Eventually I would like to live there. How difficult would it be for an american to fly for your airline? I have an ATP, and about 4000 of military time.


KoruPilot 01-24-2012 12:04 AM

It's difficult enough for a Kiwi to fly for Air NZ as there is very little movement. That has been the case for half a decade now and only people on YES letters, and they have been on them for years now, are getting in; even then it is a trickle. Once they figure out how to make the 65 to 70 year olds retire, then perhaps there will be some real movement.

I'm no longer with Air NZ by the way. I went contracting for a couple of years on a commute and have been with Virgin Australia (New Zeland) for just over a year; and have made captain. To me, by far the better choice at the moment in Australasia is the Virgin Group. But just my two cents.

With a work permit you could come here by the way. Air NZ you'll need permanent resdicence.

Yes, it is a very nice area of the world.

seaplanenow744 01-28-2012 04:48 PM

Korupilot is there a way I could email you? tried the above email you posted, but it didn't work.
I'm a Canadian too on a 744 contract... but looking for the next move...
(I'll leave the rest for a PM or email).

Thanks for all the info that you've provided !


KoruPilot 01-28-2012 11:19 PM

Yea, I don't use that one anymore, sorry. Best just to make a few more posts and send me a PM. Sounds like you're in an interesting position and I'd love to chat. Drop a PM when you are able.

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