World Wide Hiring Boom Here! (speculation)
 

I have been watching the trend for Expat hiring really start to explode in the last 8 to 12 months. Vietnam and China are hiring A320, A330 Qualified pilots for both seats. I have seen monthly salaries go up from 6k per month to 13k per month. It is finally here. I remember 13k salaries for B744 not A320. It is very encouraging and I expect the salaries and benefits to only increase. Good luck fellow bus drivers.

Go to these head hunters for more information:
Rishworth Aviation
PARC Aviation
VOR Holdings
and check out Air Hong Kong for non type rated guys.

PS: Regarding KAL. Had a buddy recently go to through interview. Out of 30 guys interviewed they only took 5. Be careful not to get your hopes up too high.

Just because the Asian carriers are raising the pay rates does not mean there is a pilot shortage. Yes the wages have come up some, actually back to what they were 2 years ago. Also, don't believe everything you read in those ads. Some have a tendency to overstate the actual pay. Read - You might make that much if you never go home and fly overtime every month.


The only shortage is guys that are current and qualified on type, and in alot of cases significant time on type.

I'd agree with TheDude here. There are more jobs coming up for current and qualified, but be very carefull with those numbers you are looking at as Rishworth and friends give you total package, and it can be very costly to live in some places, with a family even more so.

There is also currently a whole lot of movement to the greener grass; one chap leaves airline A to go to B and another leaves B to go to A. What can I say, us contractors are an itchy bunch of chaps.

That all said, the wages are certainly better than much of the western world at the moment, and some T&C's are most certainly going up. So far as the shortage does I do personally see a real problem coming around the corner for the airlines worldwide, but that corner is more like two years away.

Just one idiots perspective.

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OH NOEZ! A PILET SHORTAGE! It's a trend that I am not suprised to see. What they have done is brought over a ton of guys to the states and trained them, then brought them back home, and the older guys are starting to retire with no one ready to take the reigns yet. It's a recipe for the guys that are getting hired right now to be out of a job when the up and commers finally get enough hours to sit left seat. Notice that the majority of the openings are for guys with a type already and signifigant time in tat airplane. When you put a guy in the right seat with 250-350 hours, your going to need a guy in the other seat that has a signifigant amount of experince to keep things safe.

Guys,

I have a question??? Why is it that most companies out there requires a 500 PIC in type (ex. B737) to be on the left seat. Is that a standard or something?? The reason I ask is because I have like 380 hour left seat on B737, but I don't qualify as per their requirements... But all companies seems to have the same requirement... : (

There are certainly a fair number of opportunities being advertised for overseas positions. I would personally stay away from both Rishworth and VOR Holdings. PARC are okay to deal with. I've done two contracts with them over the years and they are one of the better agents. CCL would be a good one as well, but they are primarily for Korean. Sigmar and Direct would probably be runners as well. I tend to stay away from the U.S. agents due to 1099 issues that they might present you with although HACS ( or whatever they've morphed into now, CrewSource? ) are okay. I'd still go with PARC for the same Japanese contracts for the reason above.

In regards to time in type, it is generally a regulatory requirement as is the requirement to be current within a year, 6 months or whatever. The airline doesn't get much say in what the regulator requires unless it's a strong national airline. The line of reasoning is pretty sound, "why give a job to an inexperienced expat when we can give one to an inexperienced local". Therefore expats need to bring something to the table that the locals don't have.



Typhoonpilot

The next few years are going to be very interesting for pilots in the international market, many opportunities available right now and many more to come but as folks have expressed already it is not going to be a "free for all" guys with time on type on midsize A/C's current and qualified or guys that have the magic 1,000 wide body PIC will be the ones writing their own tickets. Now, there aren't that many guys out there to meet this demand so opportunities will open up in the future but for the time being they are sticking to their guns in terms of their minimum requirements.

Generally minimum time on type is a local DGCA requirement. There are and have been carriers who hired DECs with zero time on type, but with lots of large transport category time. Jobs of these types are not the highest paying ones, nor located in the garden spots of the planet.

It's not uncommon for an airline to hire someone with many hours on type but not current. With that being said additional training in accordance with the local regulators would be given.

Hi!

So, they are raising pay, because they want to spread the wealth of their companies, and pay all their employees more?

NO!!! There IS a shortage of applicants/interviewees/new-hires for their position, so they
HAVE to raise the T&Cs (Terms and Conditions) to get enough people to fill the seats.

If there was an increasing excess number of pilots, they would be LOWERING the salaries!!!! Basic ECON 101!!!

Asia, the ME, and Africa, especially, are already affected by the pilot shortage, and it won't ge getting better anytime soon, unless the US starts airline-funded MCP type-training.

cliff
MIA

thanks ATP cliff dude
 

ATPcliff: thanks for jumping in....at least some one understands the world climate...i spoke with my head hunter this morning and they are upping the salaries yet again....A320 monthly salaries (China) are going up to 16k....I was making 14k per month in 2002 and 2003 on the B744.

Head hunter also stated that they are anticipating some HEFTY monthly packages coming in the near future for A380 and A350 jobs. He hinted at 22k to 24k....(it is about darned time)

Another issue are the Pilot Ages...Many pilots are tossing in the towel at 63. This applies both to CONUS and world wide. Unless oil hits $140/barrel, I think the time is good for all of us Bus Drivers.

Cheers.