Fly dubai?
02-26-2012, 01:14 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by fullflank
Is there a housing allowance?
Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT
Was wondering the same thing. Considering they don't have any information on their website about it, they probably don't. Anyone know for sure?
03-16-2012, 11:11 AM
#14
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Position: B737-800 Captain, Dubai
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It is OK, but be warned there are issues here too.
We fly into some hairy places without too much company support. There is no union (they are illegal here), so you are at the company's mercy on legal interpretations. The pay structure, well, there really isn't one. We also don't usually fly the 80 hours that is listed on the website. Finally, there are a lot of night flights - 70% of our flying is late night or very early morning.
That said, the family likes it here. There is almost zero crime. Dubai is very westernized compared to any other place in the region - though I miss Home Depot. Everything else is pretty much here. It is a great pilot group. The airplanes are all new and pretty well equipped. Maintenance is good. We are paid a housing allowance (which is reflected in the take home pay advertised) as well as education allowance, but the cost for that has gone up faster than our allowance has, so you will be out of pocket for some of that. The other good news is that it is quasi-owned by the government of Dubai, so it seems rather stable.
I know the process entailed a prelim interview with CTC in the UK which isn't exactly easy to get to. It includes some aptitude and psych testing, group exercises, panel interview and a sim ride. Then the final interview day is here in Dubai and is a presentation, meet with upper management for Q and A, then a typical HR interview with a line pilot and HR interviewer. I believe the CTC may be revisited, so I'm not positive on the current interview protocol.
Hope that helps!
Randy
We fly into some hairy places without too much company support. There is no union (they are illegal here), so you are at the company's mercy on legal interpretations. The pay structure, well, there really isn't one. We also don't usually fly the 80 hours that is listed on the website. Finally, there are a lot of night flights - 70% of our flying is late night or very early morning.
That said, the family likes it here. There is almost zero crime. Dubai is very westernized compared to any other place in the region - though I miss Home Depot. Everything else is pretty much here. It is a great pilot group. The airplanes are all new and pretty well equipped. Maintenance is good. We are paid a housing allowance (which is reflected in the take home pay advertised) as well as education allowance, but the cost for that has gone up faster than our allowance has, so you will be out of pocket for some of that. The other good news is that it is quasi-owned by the government of Dubai, so it seems rather stable.
I know the process entailed a prelim interview with CTC in the UK which isn't exactly easy to get to. It includes some aptitude and psych testing, group exercises, panel interview and a sim ride. Then the final interview day is here in Dubai and is a presentation, meet with upper management for Q and A, then a typical HR interview with a line pilot and HR interviewer. I believe the CTC may be revisited, so I'm not positive on the current interview protocol.
Hope that helps!
Randy
04-08-2012, 07:03 PM
#15
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,068
Originally Posted by RandyBMC
It is OK, but be warned there are issues here too.
We fly into some hairy places without too much company support. There is no union (they are illegal here), so you are at the company's mercy on legal interpretations. The pay structure, well, there really isn't one. We also don't usually fly the 80 hours that is listed on the website. Finally, there are a lot of night flights - 70% of our flying is late night or very early morning.
That said, the family likes it here. There is almost zero crime. Dubai is very westernized compared to any other place in the region - though I miss Home Depot. Everything else is pretty much here. It is a great pilot group. The airplanes are all new and pretty well equipped. Maintenance is good. We are paid a housing allowance (which is reflected in the take home pay advertised) as well as education allowance, but the cost for that has gone up faster than our allowance has, so you will be out of pocket for some of that. The other good news is that it is quasi-owned by the government of Dubai, so it seems rather stable.
I know the process entailed a prelim interview with CTC in the UK which isn't exactly easy to get to. It includes some aptitude and psych testing, group exercises, panel interview and a sim ride. Then the final interview day is here in Dubai and is a presentation, meet with upper management for Q and A, then a typical HR interview with a line pilot and HR interviewer. I believe the CTC may be revisited, so I'm not positive on the current interview protocol.
Hope that helps!
Randy
We fly into some hairy places without too much company support. There is no union (they are illegal here), so you are at the company's mercy on legal interpretations. The pay structure, well, there really isn't one. We also don't usually fly the 80 hours that is listed on the website. Finally, there are a lot of night flights - 70% of our flying is late night or very early morning.
That said, the family likes it here. There is almost zero crime. Dubai is very westernized compared to any other place in the region - though I miss Home Depot. Everything else is pretty much here. It is a great pilot group. The airplanes are all new and pretty well equipped. Maintenance is good. We are paid a housing allowance (which is reflected in the take home pay advertised) as well as education allowance, but the cost for that has gone up faster than our allowance has, so you will be out of pocket for some of that. The other good news is that it is quasi-owned by the government of Dubai, so it seems rather stable.
I know the process entailed a prelim interview with CTC in the UK which isn't exactly easy to get to. It includes some aptitude and psych testing, group exercises, panel interview and a sim ride. Then the final interview day is here in Dubai and is a presentation, meet with upper management for Q and A, then a typical HR interview with a line pilot and HR interviewer. I believe the CTC may be revisited, so I'm not positive on the current interview protocol.
Hope that helps!
Randy
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05-16-2012, 07:18 PM
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Can anyone share apples-to-apples comparison of compensation/benefits/housing between FlyDubai and Emirates? Some have suggested Emirates is better but I have not seen any hard numbers. Are they pretty comparable? Sure, Emirates flies bigger airplanes farther afield, but you get a lot of jetlag along with it. For now I am just curious about the value of the total comp packages...
PMs are also welcome.
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PMs are also welcome.
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05-16-2012, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Can anyone share apples-to-apples comparison of compensation/benefits/housing between FlyDubai and Emirates? Some have suggested Emirates is better but I have not seen any hard numbers. Are they pretty comparable? Sure, Emirates flies bigger airplanes farther afield, but you get a lot of jetlag along with it. For now I am just curious about the value of the total comp packages...
PMs are also welcome.
Thanks
PMs are also welcome.
Thanks
Compensation: First year FO basic salary-6,930 USD/month. 3% increase annually. Flight hour pay at 12.25/hr for FO's. Target month averages 88 hrs. All compesation is tax free up to 95k for US citizens, 100% for UK citizens. Don't know about other nations. 50% of your basic salary is protected against your home country's currency. For example; If you're an American and the USD becomes stronger against the AED, half your salary will increase accordingly. Perdiem is recieved in cash and local currency upon check-in to hotel equaling 3 meals/layover. Interest free car loan up to 19K USD, withdrawn from pay in equal amount over 4 years.
Healthcare: Vision and dental included. Staff- Free. Covered worldwide 24hrs. Spouse- 686 USD/year. First 3 children under age of 18- 245 USD/year each. 4th plus child- 376 USD/year. Loss of license insurance- all ages up to completion of 61st year, 3 annual basic salaries.
Accommodation: Married with children FO- Villa. Married no children FO- 3 bedroom apartment. Single FO- 2 bedroom apartment. FO who upgrades to CA will be entitled to a villa regardless of marital status. You can take the living space fully furnished and receive 1k USD to buy other household items. The company contributes 7,300 USD/year towards utilities (payable directly to provider). If you take your accommodations unfurnished, you will receive 12,250 USD to furnish your place. You can opt out of company accommodations and receive 3,600 USD/month paid directly to pilot. Furnishing allowance still applies. Utility allownace does not ( I think).
Retirement: Pilot must contribute 5% immediately. Company contributes 12% first ten years, 15% beyond. You can take 100% company vested after 7 years. 50% before 7 years. If terminated after 5 years of employment- Higher of the two: 75% of accumulated market value of company contribution, or 30 days basic salary per years of service.
There are other items such as education allowance and the EK pilots card that gets you huge discounts all over Dubai, and access to VIP clubs etc. 42 days paid leave per year. Profit sharing.
Hope that helps, you can probably tell I'm having a boring slow night.
Last edited by fullflank; 05-16-2012 at 09:13 PM.
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