Airline job in USA after working in China
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Airline job in USA after working in China
I have recently commenced sending resumes to airlines here in the US for the first time since spending 10 years of flying in Asia with the last 3 in China.
Jetblue for example require a:
"...ten (10) year background check"
I assume that this is a background check of flying history verifying employment and incident/accident events etc.
Can anybody here who has returned from a China contract to an airline job in the US shed some light on this process and how it works.
My concern is that my employer in China basically does not communicate with the outside world about you once you leave the job. This is common and several pilots are trying to extract information from them such as letter of employment or letter of no incident/accident without any luck at all.
Has anybody here moved from China back to the US and jumped these hurdles before.
Jetblue for example require a:
"...ten (10) year background check"
I assume that this is a background check of flying history verifying employment and incident/accident events etc.
Can anybody here who has returned from a China contract to an airline job in the US shed some light on this process and how it works.
My concern is that my employer in China basically does not communicate with the outside world about you once you leave the job. This is common and several pilots are trying to extract information from them such as letter of employment or letter of no incident/accident without any luck at all.
Has anybody here moved from China back to the US and jumped these hurdles before.
#2
As someone who worked offshore on a contract in Asia (but not in China) as I understand it to satisfy the PRIA the airline need only attempt to contact a foreign carrier for the records. Still, it would be wise to keep photo-copies of your PC's, resignation letter, etc.
Although, you can cross FedEx off your list, (and maybe UPS, + perhaps others) for 5 years after you return because they will not hire pilots who've flown overseas (excluding military and, get this, missionary work). Reason: They have a major USPS contract, and since you've worked overseas obviously you're a terrorist. This is the USPS's doing and not any one carrier. This is troubling since, besides being a stupid contract stipulation with no basis for support, when I was furloughed in the USA I was flying the same freight/company owned aircraft before I left for overseas. USA=dysfunction. Good luck.
Although, you can cross FedEx off your list, (and maybe UPS, + perhaps others) for 5 years after you return because they will not hire pilots who've flown overseas (excluding military and, get this, missionary work). Reason: They have a major USPS contract, and since you've worked overseas obviously you're a terrorist. This is the USPS's doing and not any one carrier. This is troubling since, besides being a stupid contract stipulation with no basis for support, when I was furloughed in the USA I was flying the same freight/company owned aircraft before I left for overseas. USA=dysfunction. Good luck.
#5
(RE maintaining a U.S. address). OK, maybe I (happily) stand corrected.
question: While I rented in the host country I kept my place in the USA, had mail go there, utilities paid by me, vehicles kept registered there & came back every 90 days for 21 days (paid by the company). Would that let me out of the 5 year rule?
question: While I rented in the host country I kept my place in the USA, had mail go there, utilities paid by me, vehicles kept registered there & came back every 90 days for 21 days (paid by the company). Would that let me out of the 5 year rule?
#6
Why are you even concern about it? Unless you have friends that are members of the norther Mississippi flying club and you are directly targeting FedEx, this is a non issue. About your address, what address did you give when you applied for your job, license, medicals? What address does your company has on file as your address, what address is on both your FAA & CAA licenses? I guess that is your address then! You are over thinking it, besides, how long you think the USPS will be around for? That will go the way of the typewriter soon I suspect.
#7
That's right, what am I concerned about this for? Mostly as a matter of that long lost thing called a principle. I had a relative at FedEx who's was hired as a pilot in '78, now retired, but I don't think that would help, and its true, I probably won't qualify for FedEx even after I flew airplanes they owned, their cargo, and they paid me via their contractor (i.e. contractor carrier). We know that syndrome.
The principle thing isn't against FedEx, its just dumb hindrances like the USPS "rule". The way things have been going, now for over a decade, if you add up and abide by all the stipulations and hoops to jump through to get a job these days, if applied universally, one would never get a flying job. I found the USPS "rule" to be one of the more stupid one's. I've moved on past that last insult but I am warily waiting for the next "surprise".
The principle thing isn't against FedEx, its just dumb hindrances like the USPS "rule". The way things have been going, now for over a decade, if you add up and abide by all the stipulations and hoops to jump through to get a job these days, if applied universally, one would never get a flying job. I found the USPS "rule" to be one of the more stupid one's. I've moved on past that last insult but I am warily waiting for the next "surprise".
#8
That you think the USPS rule is dumb is irrelevant, like I said before, your address is and has been your us address so it is not an issue. Coming across like you have an ax to grind is!
Good luck on your job hunt
Good luck on your job hunt
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Why are you even concern about it? Unless you have friends that are members of the norther Mississippi flying club and you are directly targeting FedEx, this is a non issue. About your address, what address did you give when you applied for your job, license, medicals? What address does your company has on file as your address, what address is on both your FAA & CAA licenses? I guess that is your address then! You are over thinking it, besides, how long you think the USPS will be around for? That will go the way of the typewriter soon I suspect.
FedEx doesn't really carry much in the way of USPS mail, mostly just USPS packages.
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