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Kapitanleutnant 04-04-2013 09:48 PM

Couple of things come to mind about the whole Turkish deal...

First off, I've heard there is quite a bit of animosity between the union pilots at Turkish and the non union expats coming to fly their aircraft. Just what I've heard, don't shoot the messenger.

Secondly, about 2-3 years ago Turkish hired a number of expats as Triple captains there only to turn around the let them go within about a year of what was supposed to be a longer contract period. Left some pretty bad blood from what I know. Same thing that Jet Airways did about the same time period.

So, use extreme caution when dealing with either Turkish or Jet Airways.

Just sayin'.....

Kap

The Dominican 04-05-2013 01:09 AM

Heard the same thing, apparently life on the 73 there is more pleasant, but the 777 has a few issues, there is a lot of growth proyected and for what I hear not a lot of local experience to cover it, basically the same issue than here in Japan, lots of retirements with not enough right seat wealth to draw from.

zondaracer 04-05-2013 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by acebaxter (Post 1385191)
You will require the medical which was rather pricey in Ireland. I don't know about the rest of the world.

How much in Ireland? In the UK, price for an initial class 1 is up to 348GBP which is about $550 at today's exchange rate. In Spain, an initial class 1 is about €400, so about the same. At least renewals and revalidations are reasonable at €150 more or less.

acebaxter 04-05-2013 03:20 PM

The company paid for it but as I remember it was around 680 euro. I really miss flying in Europe but with all the citizenship requirements in the world I think I'll be in the States for a while. Japan temps me but I don't know if I could tolerate that commute for the duration of a five year contract.

The Dominican 04-05-2013 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by acebaxter (Post 1385665)
Japan temps me but I don't know if I could tolerate that commute for the duration of a five year contract.

Being doing it for 6+ years now and believe me when I say that it is nothing like the experience of commuting while working in the states.
Depends on what commuting option you take of course but if you choose to take your confirmed business class ticket every month, it is actually a very pleasant experience, your first sector is on ANA either to Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, New York, fully lay flat seats with the service of an airline that was just named ATW (airline transport world) 2013 airline of the year and SKYTRAX just awarded a 5 star rating. All while accumulating miles on their award program, so very quickly you earn a Diamond status, that brings many more perks like checking in their ANA suite check in counters, exclusive lines through security in Narita and Haneda, automatic upgrades to first class on your second sector inside the states, checking more bags for free when you travel on vacation (great for when you travel on vacation with the family) access to all the lounges within the star alliance and so forth. Commuting is not an issue at all really, but the stupid freighter trips once you get here, that is another story:mad:

acebaxter 04-05-2013 06:24 PM

Thank you for the insight. My biggest concern with the commute is simply the number of time zones my 54 year old body would be adjusting to. I wonder how many of those 10 days with my wife would be spent in a state of semi-sleep? Still, I really enjoyed the lifestyle and cultural experiences that came with living and working in Europe. I will never be able to duplicate that in the States and therefore continue to look at contract flying. Since they do not seem to be hiring Captains at the present time I don't have to sweat the decision. Yet.

gcpilot 04-05-2013 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by acebaxter (Post 1385665)
The company paid for it but as I remember it was around 680 euro. I really miss flying in Europe but with all the citizenship requirements in the world I think I'll be in the States for a while. Japan temps me but I don't know if I could tolerate that commute for the duration of a five year contract.

If you cant handle the commute then I wonder how you would go through the JCAB conversion process lasting upward of 6 months.

acebaxter 04-06-2013 05:45 AM

There are not many time zones to contend with when you stay in one place for six months.

The Dominican 04-06-2013 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by acebaxter (Post 1385738)
I wonder how many of those 10 days with my wife would be spent in a state of semi-sleep?

Well yes, jetlag is part of it all, we all have our different system to adjust, I do OK going westbound but coming home, I usually start adjusting my sleeping patterns two days before my trip home (provided my roster allows it) if I have freight for the last few days before I go home then it is not much of a problem since I'm working at the hours of daylight back home.

Sorry all for the thread drift!

acebaxter 04-07-2013 10:07 AM

Thank you for the information. And yes, sorry for wandering off subject.
Cheers


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