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twobecrazy 04-04-2013 04:30 PM

Hiring Process
 
Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a couple of quick questions.

1.) I haven't seen anything about any type of background checks concerning these foreign carriers. What is the status and process concerning this during the hiring process.

2.) Do they drug test?

Just to clarify I'm not concerned with either of these personally but I must have missed something.

Thanks!

HSLD 04-04-2013 04:43 PM

"These foreign carriers"?

twobecrazy 04-04-2013 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 1385145)
"These foreign carriers"?

These foreign carriers was in reference to what I have read recently in this forum.

Sorry. I haven't read anything concerning background checks or drug testing for any foreign carrier so far and was just inquiring. I know as pilots in the U.S. we are held to high character standards. I'm just curious if foreign carriers hold their pilots in the same regard. Thanks again.

The Dominican 04-04-2013 05:29 PM

The reason as to the question about this comment "these foreign carriers" is because to group the rest of the worlds carrier into one neat group is just not practical, standards vary a LOT from country to country and even from different companies within that country. It is impossible to give you a yes or no answer.
I guess that the best I can do is tell you that in the rest of the industrialized world, airlines have similar and in some cases, more stringent hiring criteria that airlines here in the US, drug testing is pretty much a standard practice in most airlines but the testing is done along with the medicals (even if they tell you that they don't when you ask) as to background checks, also in most cases a criminal and professional background check is preformed.
Haven said that, worldwide there is every kind of different standards under the sun, there are very professional and structured airlines but there are also your shady operators. Not sure as to how else to answer that question???

twobecrazy 04-04-2013 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by The Dominican (Post 1385163)
The reason as to the question about this comment "these foreign carriers" is because to group the rest of the worlds carrier into one neat group is just not practical, standards vary a LOT from country to country and even from different companies within that country. It is impossible to give you a yes or no answer.
I guess that the best I can do is tell you that in the rest of the industrialized world, airlines have similar and in some cases, more stringent hiring criteria that airlines here in the US, drug testing is pretty much a standard practice in most airlines but the testing is done along with the medicals (even if they tell you that they don't when you ask) as to background checks, also in most cases a criminal and professional background check is preformed.
Haven said that, worldwide there is every kind of different standards under the sun, there are very professional and structured airlines but there are also your shady operators. Not sure as to how else to answer that question???

Sorry for the ambiguity behind the question. I guess my thoughts are that U.S. carriers are able to contact the FBI for background checks, credit agencies, and the DMV. Basically an airline in the U.S. has vast means to obtain info about it's potential employees. I'm just wondering if foreign companies take the same precautions. How are they able to obtain that information to have the same standards?

The Dominican 04-04-2013 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by twobecrazy (Post 1385186)
How are they able to obtain that information to have the same standards?

The same way an airline in the US does! The information access is not predicated on the geographical location of its offices, but rather in the nature of the job. Some companies do the background checks through Interpol, and if you don't know this organization, I can assure you they have access to anything and everything an airline does and then some. But again, it is impossible to generalize here because the standards of Emirates, ANA, British Airways are not the standards of "we fly you for less" mi point is that although there are airlines that will follow all due process, there are others that just want warm bodies, specially now with the high demand of experienced pilots, I doubt that an airline in a non developed country will care if you had a DUI 20 years ago. Like I said, everything under the sun:cool:

The Dominican 04-04-2013 07:32 PM

To expand on what I said, background information on an individual is readily available to anyone. Back in my corporate/charter days I ran a flight department based outside of the US and hired several pilots including a few US guys, I was able to get a complete and detailed background information on these individuals and that was before 9/11 and the Internet. Now as to who goes the extra mile, who doesn't???

jrmyl 04-04-2013 07:42 PM

Oh c'mon Dom, you know that all of us who are working outside of the "glorious" US airline industry are a bunch of criminal, loser, can't hack it, wannabe's. After all, that is why we aren't working for the legacies back home. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

twobecrazy 04-05-2013 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by The Dominican (Post 1385229)
To expand on what I said, background information on an individual is readily available to anyone. Back in my corporate/charter days I ran a flight department based outside of the US and hired several pilots including a few US guys, I was able to get a complete and detailed background information on these individuals and that was before 9/11 and the Internet. Now as to who goes the extra mile, who doesn't???

Great info... Thanks a bunch...

twobecrazy 04-05-2013 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by jrmyl (Post 1385236)
Oh c'mon Dom, you know that all of us who are working outside of the "glorious" US airline industry are a bunch of criminal, loser, can't hack it, wannabe's. After all, that is why we aren't working for the legacies back home. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Sarcasm noted... That being said I've seen some pretty shady repair work on airplanes in the past from other countries. I'm not saying I haven't Jerry rigid something to get by for a flight but not to the level I have seen in planes from other countries. So I believe my question is relevant.


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