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av8tordude 02-01-2014 01:42 PM

Business Expenses Deduction
 
Can I deduct business expenses if my foreign employer does not issue a W2?

jrmyl 02-01-2014 04:18 PM

Sure, why not. Self-employed people do it. Of course, if any doubt, contact a tax professional.

Probe 02-01-2014 06:01 PM

I think if you deduct business expenses, you are claiming that you are self employed. Not quite sure about that though.

Self-employed means you owe 15% self-employment tax.

The IRS audited a bunch of expat pilots this past two years including me. One of things they said I owed was self-employment tax, plus penalties and interest. There is a description in one of the IRS forms on what is, and is not, a self-employed contractor vs an employee. I printed it out, highlighted the section, and sent it to them with all my credentials from my foreign jobs, and the proof that I met the criteria of an employee.

They accepted it, and I won.

jrmyl 02-01-2014 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 1572359)
I think if you deduct business expenses, you are claiming that you are self employed. Not quite sure about that though.

Self-employed means you owe 15% self-employment tax.

The IRS audited a bunch of expat pilots this past two years including me. One of things they said I owed was self-employment tax, plus penalties and interest. There is a description in one of the IRS forms on what is, and is not, a self-employed contractor vs an employee. I printed it out, highlighted the section, and sent it to them with all my credentials from my foreign jobs, and the proof that I met the criteria of an employee.

They accepted it, and I won.

So, as an expat pilot, are you paying US taxes? I work in Japan but am payed by an American company. So I have taxes deducted from my paycheck.

However, business expenses are any expense that you incur while at work. In other words, if you have to pay for a hotel and are not reimbursed, that is a business expense. If you pay for your uniforms or their cleaning, that is a business expense. You don't have to be self employed to claim business expenses.

Again, if you are in doubt, contact a tax professional.

bcpilot 02-02-2014 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by jrmyl (Post 1572442)
So, as an expat pilot, are you paying US taxes? I work in Japan but am payed by an American company. So I have taxes deducted from my paycheck.

However, business expenses are any expense that you incur while at work. In other words, if you have to pay for a hotel and are not reimbursed, that is a business expense. If you pay for your uniforms or their cleaning, that is a business expense. You don't have to be self employed to claim business expenses.

Again, if you are in doubt, contact a tax professional.


If you claim that you are a salaried employee, even then you can claim the all the expense/bills that were NOT paid for by the employer while on the road. Expenses such as hotel, uniform cleaning, meals, phone, Internet, roaming charges etc can de deducted as un-reimbursed employee business expenses by using Form 2106 on the tax return.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i2106.pdf

But tread carefully in what you choose to write off, specially if get a per diem...

jrmyl 02-02-2014 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by bcpilot (Post 1572508)
If you claim that you are a salaried employee, even then you can claim the all the expense/bills that were NOT paid for by the employer while on the road. Expenses such as hotel, uniform cleaning, meals, phone, Internet, roaming charges etc can de deducted as un-reimbursed employee business expenses by using Form 2106 on the tax return.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i2106.pdf

But tread carefully in what you choose to write off, specially if get a per diem...


You are exactly correct. Not sure how anyone else does per diem, but the way I have done it is to deduct the difference between the published rates and what I have actually received. I use the M&IE rates published by the US State Department for OCONUS locations.


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