Need CRJ200 crews, Afghanistan
03-24-2014, 07:13 PM
#81
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Originally Posted by phoenix 23684
Why are you limiting this to only CRJ-200 rated with time individuals? I've been flying in Afghanistan for the past 6 years and I think getting guys with no military background or experience flying in that AOR a foolish thing. Don't believe me, talk to L3 which only hired BE-300 typed guys at first (corporate pilots with no knowledge but excited about the pay) and quickly changed gears and now they are doing great because they hired first and foremost experienced people and provide the type training.
You really want to target people who have been flying in that AOR and/or have been in the military dealing with those types of living conditions.
I can also tell you that things will get extremely sketchy once the US/coalition pulls out at the end of the year, watch all the local Afghans who are fleeing right now as they know the Taliban will re-claim the region. Kandahar already looks like a ghost town compared to last year.
I would caution anyone in the states with CRJ-200 experience, with little to no military/combat time that the money is not worth it if you have no idea what you are getting yourself into.
Since you're not willing to state pay, I will say this. You can get a job flying for Dynamic/L3/Avenge/Blackwater, etc for around 15-20k per month and you live in a military base.
You really want to target people who have been flying in that AOR and/or have been in the military dealing with those types of living conditions.
I can also tell you that things will get extremely sketchy once the US/coalition pulls out at the end of the year, watch all the local Afghans who are fleeing right now as they know the Taliban will re-claim the region. Kandahar already looks like a ghost town compared to last year.
I would caution anyone in the states with CRJ-200 experience, with little to no military/combat time that the money is not worth it if you have no idea what you are getting yourself into.
Since you're not willing to state pay, I will say this. You can get a job flying for Dynamic/L3/Avenge/Blackwater, etc for around 15-20k per month and you live in a military base.
03-24-2014, 07:37 PM
#82
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Just read this entire thread..so funny.
Tony Williams, never had anything against you man, but you do yourself a disservice to try and dress Afghanistan up as anything but what it is, very dangerous. The term "don't BS and BS'er" comes to mind. You may be new to Afghanistan living/ Flying but there are many of us on here...
Tony Williams, never had anything against you man, but you do yourself a disservice to try and dress Afghanistan up as anything but what it is, very dangerous. The term "don't BS and BS'er" comes to mind. You may be new to Afghanistan living/ Flying but there are many of us on here...
I always love the attitude of "my danger is so much more real / special / scary, etc than "your" danger".
My ass is currently in Kabul, and I physically heard the gunshots from the punks who shot up the Serena Hotel the other night. I sure as hell never sugar coated this ****.
Spare me your speech and your "BS".
Shopping, Camp Victory, Iraq
So yes, that is sugar coating.
Also, call it a hunch, but I'm willing to bet that the reason you are being so secretive about the pay is because you don't want to scare off any potential "recruits" by posting the low wages and having those on the forums express the insanity of it.
03-25-2014, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
By comparing Afghanistan to Atlanta or Detroit, and by equating the overnights to being similar, is ridiculous. So yes, that is sugar coating. Also, call it a hunch, but I'm willing to bet that the reason you are being so secretive about the pay is because you don't want to scare off any potential "recruits" by posting the low wages and having those on the forums express the insanity of it.
Believe it or not, folks have heard of Afghanistan. For 35 years, that country has been in one war or another. There's absolutely nothing you could add that any person cognizant enough to fly a jet should not be able to figure out. It's dangerous. Period. Right now, just days before a national election on April 5, it will be EXTREMELY dangerous. There are daily incidents, and the troops are out in force. It will get worse before April 6.
Yes, there are places in the USA that I would not venture around for fear of being killed, mugged, etc. That's reality, whether you believe it or not. iIn the "Tony Scale" of really scary places, Kabul is not at the top of the list. Sorry if that doesn't sit well with your enlightenment. Thankfully, car bombings are rare in the USA.
The folks who don't want to work here are 99.999999% of the world population. You guys surely don't need to keep posting the obvious. The same number of folks who want to fly here, like you, is small of that teeny tiny percentage. The amount of those folks who are pretentious blow hards like you; probably pretty high, because it does take a screw loose to work in some of the world's garden spots like I have, and apparently you to.
By the way, I love the admission that the bad guys keep blowing stuff up in the vicinity of where you work, yet YOU keep going to work (if you still work here).
For anybody else interested, again, we currently have enough applicants. We are busy getting government approvals, and it might be a while to get back to some of you. So, even though the enlightened think I'm worried about "scaring you away", believe me, I couldn't hide the dangers here if I wanted, plus we don't need additional folks now. So, please, make judgements on facts.
03-25-2014, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
I'm not the person to be able to address an employee's legal rights here. I would think of it much like SkyWest Airlines with their "Right to Work" state of Utah, which really means you can be sacked at any time for whatever failing you may have. The U.A.E. has no legal labor unions, but I don't know about Afghanistan.
A training failure would not be retained. We are not in a position to baby sit pilots, which is why they must be experienced in this aircraft.
The exception is Afghan nationals, or those who speak the local language, who will be trained under a somewhat costly program (but common in this part of the world) of a training captain (TRI) plus a safety captain in the jump seat during IOE. All the Afghan speakers we currently have completed a full JAA / EASA approved initial course in Europe, but have zero time in a CRJ.
We just repositioned the first aircraft to Kabul from Dubai. This is the equinox and first day of the Persian New Year (1393), and our company teams have been busy setting up sales and ticket offices, airport offices (both in domestic and international terminal at Kabul), building maintenance facilities, and hiring.
It is exciting watching something rise from the dust.
A training failure would not be retained. We are not in a position to baby sit pilots, which is why they must be experienced in this aircraft.
The exception is Afghan nationals, or those who speak the local language, who will be trained under a somewhat costly program (but common in this part of the world) of a training captain (TRI) plus a safety captain in the jump seat during IOE. All the Afghan speakers we currently have completed a full JAA / EASA approved initial course in Europe, but have zero time in a CRJ.
We just repositioned the first aircraft to Kabul from Dubai. This is the equinox and first day of the Persian New Year (1393), and our company teams have been busy setting up sales and ticket offices, airport offices (both in domestic and international terminal at Kabul), building maintenance facilities, and hiring.
It is exciting watching something rise from the dust.
03-25-2014, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
Anybody for a trip to downtown Detroit?
03-25-2014, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Wait, you're going to train Afghans?!?!? To fly?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Also there pilots who may have the command over the language (native Afghans in US forces or Americans who picked up the language in military service).
So yes, the Afghans can be trained. The OP is not saying that he will go out on the streets of Kabul and pick locals as cadets!
03-25-2014, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Wait, you're going to train Afghans?!?!? To fly?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
03-26-2014, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
We had them in Okla. in the early 60's. PanAm sponsored ab-initios. Two to three years to Commercial, DC-3 type [Day VFR]. They loved the Cherokee girls. I think a few went back to Kabul with the boys.
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