Get Your CV Ready For China Pilot Hiring Boom
#51
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2014
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Is not our resumes that need to be ready, it is the companies respective cultures that need to be adjusted so that pilots get interested in working there, between the punishment cultures about everything from a "go around" to calling in sick, an atmosphere where the F/O is the one communicating with company staff because no one speaks English, other pilots smoking in the cockpit (you don't realize how disgusting that is) medical standards that were designed for 18 year old cadets entering the military, the contract agreed upon not being honored and terms changed midterm, promises of DEC positions just to come to the realization after you begin flying the line that you will be a cruise captain for a year and then the right seat for another year before you start flying as PIC (along with a reduced salary throughout) dodgy paperwork for documents that we need for tax purposes in our respective countries, lease contracts for far less than the actual amount thus leaving the rest of the housing cost to be interpreted as income, lies after lies about everything from the cost of schooling just to discover that it will run you a LOT more than you were told, to not honoring overtime pay and flying 20 hours a month over the agreed minimum guaranteed and not getting that paid, dismal commuting conditions in coach and sometimes 3 and 4 sectors to get home because every month they buy the cheapest ticket available...., I can go on and on. You guys can increase the pay all you want, but unless QOL issues are addressed you will keep having the retention problems you are having now. How many pilots are still working at the respective airlines for over 5 or 6 years? That should give you an indication that QOL needs to be addressed.
Was this JuneYao airlines? Sounds just like em.
#53
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,906
Send to both. In addition... contact head hunters directly. They will take the time to talk to you. Major game players in China are WASINC, IASCO, VOR HOLDINGS, RISHWORTH to name a few. You can also try PARC, DIRECT PERSONNEL.
Good luck
Good luck
#56
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Joined APC: Apr 2010
Posts: 694
Can anyone weigh in on the tax hit you can expect with some of these commutable from the US China contracts? It seems like the pay could be great but I'm wondering about how much travel expenses, medical, lodging, and especially taxes chip away at the all of that.
#57
Don't say Guppy
Joined APC: Dec 2010
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It could be extensive, or not too bad. If you just commute back to China and fly domestic, and the Chinese give you a Chinese tax certificate, you should owe little in the US. If you "work" back and forth to China, the flight time over international waters is taxable income in the US. I have also heard that China Southern doesn't pay tax for your flight time over international waters.
It gets complicated, and the IRS is going after expat pilots in a big way. Over 70% of the expats I know have had the IRS go after them.
It gets complicated, and the IRS is going after expat pilots in a big way. Over 70% of the expats I know have had the IRS go after them.
#58
It could be extensive, or not too bad. If you just commute back to China and fly domestic, and the Chinese give you a Chinese tax certificate, you should owe little in the US. If you "work" back and forth to China, the flight time over international waters is taxable income in the US. I have also heard that China Southern doesn't pay tax for your flight time over international waters.
It gets complicated, and the IRS is going after expat pilots in a big way. Over 70% of the expats I know have had the IRS go after them.
It gets complicated, and the IRS is going after expat pilots in a big way. Over 70% of the expats I know have had the IRS go after them.
Anyway if you do decide to work overseas be ready for a mountain of tax paperwork. And do not count on being able to do much, if any, banking overseas as many foreign banks are severely limiting services to U.S. citizens. Several U.S. banks have even closed U.S. citizens bank accounts if they see large transactions, or too many transactions, occurring overseas. So be careful even if you keep your money in the states and just draw money out at the ATM to cover your overseas expenses. This stuff you read about, banking problems and IRS audits, are really happening.
PS- Earlier this year China signed an agreement to comply with the FATCA and FBAR laws, so no hiding your money in China if you were thinking about doing so.
#59
Don't say Guppy
Joined APC: Dec 2010
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I worked two contracts outside the US, one in China. I am going through my second audit right now, and they are arguing that I was a subcontractor and therefore owe self employment tax, plus penalties and 40% interest for the last 2.5 years. I already won this once, easily, 2 years ago. Oh well. They ended up owing me money.
The IRS has an office in Beijing, by the way.
The IRS has an office in Beijing, by the way.
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