Wright cyclones

Hello........................

How do I transfer my B-747-400 type from China to my USA FAA ATP ???

I was told you cannot, and I was also told you can; simply get the US FAA rep in Tokyo to sit in on your next PC in Tokyo or Singapore.

Or................is it as simple as showing my Chinese ATP to the FAA in SFO, SEA or LAX and have it typed up on my FAA ATP ????

Any comments. Please reply.

Wright cyclones

Braniff DC8

Only one way, Pan Am in Miami has a course. No on the FAA. Or you can just apply to National or Atlas and they'll type you.

Twin Wasp

Unless you have a Canadian license, for a FAA type rating on an ATP you must complete a course of instruction at a FAA approved training center including ground school and simulator, be signed off by an approved instructor (one on staff at a FAA approved 744 school), pass an oral exam and checkride.

How long the course of instruction lasts depends. Many training centers have a "short course" for pilots with time on type. The oral exam and checkride will be the same as someone who has never flown the aircraft. Expect a 4 hour oral and 2.5 hour checkride.

captjns

Call Pan Am in MIA. You can always call an Ops Inspector at any FSDO.

CloudSpirit

There is exactly zero reciprocity between the FAA and CAAC. This is why, as a newhire with a zillion hrs on type you have to take a full checkride and do the written ATP aaaand get a Chinese "medical"... Jion the rest of us expats trying to repatriate: you WILL take at least a short course gound and sim with a full check ride with the FAA.

Let us know how it goes! I've heard of guys spending upwards of 20k to get a Chinese type "added" to their Orville and Wilbur card.

C.S.

Wright cyclones

Yes.......................I have heard and did get involved in some of the horror stories in China.

I know of several who call the US FAA Asia headquarters in Tokyo and arranged for the inspector to sit in on the sim PC and get there US type on a regular sim ride.

It has and can be done.

And yes, I know of a pilot that did spend 18,000 dollars trying to get his type and is still to this day does not have it.

He now has a well known, high powered lawyer in Washington DC ready to file against the FAA and there constant changing and interpreting various international arrangements on training. He has a good record of wins against the paper pushers at DOT and the FAA.

He is ultra sharp and has a good case; so stay tuned on this upcoming lawsuit.


Thanks for all the replys. Looks like Pan Am is it.


Wright Cyclones.

NEDude

How about adding the Chinese type rating to a Canadian license?

NEDude

I should clarify this. Getting a Canadian license from an FAA license is very easy and only costs at most around $500 (I spent a little less than that). Transferring type ratings between TCCA and the FAA is very easy. So if Canada has an easy way to add a type rating from China, it would be a round about way, but far less expensive than enrolling in a full U.S. type rating course.

On a side note...having lived outside the United States for a few years it is surprising how little the U.S. cooperates with other countries on a wide array of issues.

Twin Wasp

They thought to this. The agreement between the US and Canada says if the license/certificate from the other country is based on a third country's license they won't convert it.

captjns

Flew in Euroland for close to 5 years. The 14 exams are tantamount to rabies shots. The cost of the exams were ~$1,700. The initial medical ~$1,000. Had to take an Air Ops and Air Law exam for the validation at the tune of $400 for which no credit was given towards the 14 exams. Validations until the JAR was issued ~$350 every six months. Luckily the company simulator check was accepted by the IAA... big bucks savings their.

That said adding a type to one's ATP my cost a bit of money, but it's a walk in park by comparison.