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tailendcharlie 10-21-2015 08:49 AM

Are You An A320 Senior First Officer?
 
Anyone else click on this ad from APAS?

Thinking maybe the "Pilot Shortage" is finally making itself known - someone desperate for captains finally figured out there's a ton of high-time FO's out there who for one reason or another haven't upgraded?

Think again - reading through the requirements they still want "1,000 PIC Airline Jet."

So in other words no different than any other DEC job in China.....

OCCP 10-22-2015 07:03 PM

Yeah, it's your typical misleading ad. Sooner or later they'll have to drop the pic or change their ridiculous hiring standards.

Kritchlow 10-22-2015 09:22 PM

If you're typed, and sole manipulator, you can log pic regardless what you are acting as on the mission.

The Dominican 10-22-2015 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by Kritchlow (Post 1998246)
If you're typed, and sole manipulator, you can log pic regardless what you are acting as on the mission.

Many companies will not accept PIC time unless you are the PIC assigned to the flight under the regulatory operations permit.

Denti 10-23-2015 01:55 AM

I know of one european airline that has now deals with three chinese airlines to supply them with experienced FOs as captains. They have to pass the normal assessment process and then get an upgrade plus 100 block hours of supervision at home in europe before they go off and fly as captains in china, with a return option after two or three years into their former job.

PIC airline time is not required for those deals.

tailendcharlie 10-23-2015 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by The Dominican (Post 1998256)
Many companies will not accept PIC time unless you are the PIC assigned to the flight under the regulatory operations permit.

Think it's pretty much all companies.....

DCA A321 FO 10-23-2015 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by Kritchlow (Post 1998246)
If you're typed, and sole manipulator, you can log pic regardless what you are acting as on the mission.


NOPE...................

atpcliff 10-23-2015 07:03 PM

Some foreign carriers will accept P1 time as part of the PIC requirement: P1 is when u r PIC rated and operating controls...can be either as Capt or FO...helps to lesson the number of PIC hours required...

iflysky 10-23-2015 09:30 PM

I believe, it's called PICUS (PIC under supervision) and there are some foreign airlines that credit that towards the PIC time. Normally it's not a straight credit but at a ratio of 2:1 or so.

Senior Skipper 10-23-2015 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by Kritchlow (Post 1998246)
If you're typed, and sole manipulator, you can log pic regardless what you are acting as on the mission.


Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO (Post 1998685)
NOPE...................

DCA, §61.51(e)(i) disagrees with you



(e) Logging pilot-in-command flight time. (1) A sport, recreational, private, commercial, or airline transport pilot may log pilot in command flight time for flights-

(i) When the pilot is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for which the pilot is rated, or has sport pilot privileges for that category and class of aircraft, if the aircraft class rating is appropriate


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