Expats/Locals Blackisted or not?
04-12-2016, 01:58 AM
#11
Don't say Guppy
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Guppy driver
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Originally Posted by The Dominican
As others have stated, this is simply false...! But remember that pretty much everyone working abroad and under the age of 45 has applications with the majors back home...., competition is fierce! The pilot shortage is not at the majors level, there the pool of applicants is plentiful.
Not sure I would say plentiful. There are somewhere around 10k applicants right now at the majors. They all have the same number as they are the same 10k. It might be under that number now. A bunch of those won't be hired for one reason or another. A huge number of those are flying Rj's and will simply create another hole somewhere else if they get hired.
When I got hired, they had over 60k applicants. That, is a lot. Almost all of those had a lot more experience than the current 10k do now.
I am back at UAL now and a lot of it is HR centric for hiring, instead of just your resume. In the past I would have said this is backa$$word. After the last year working at a couple of overseas gigs, I am not so sure anymore. I might go for HR. Hard for me to admit that, but in hindsight...........
04-21-2016, 07:33 AM
#14
Proponent of Hysteria
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: "Part of the problem." : JL
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Only one I know of that blacklists expats is sadly us, FedEx.
Our postal contract has a clause where you must have resided in the States the most recent 5 years before being hired and the only exception made is for us military personnel. No wiggle room at all on this.
But I'd think you be ok applying to UAL DAL etc.
Our postal contract has a clause where you must have resided in the States the most recent 5 years before being hired and the only exception made is for us military personnel. No wiggle room at all on this.
But I'd think you be ok applying to UAL DAL etc.
04-21-2016, 02:35 PM
#15
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
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I think what you're seeing is the vast majority of legacy hiring right now is military/flow-through/furlough recall with 10,000+ qualified applicants competing for the remaining few "off the street" slots. Many of the same folks are presumably fighting each other for the relatively small number of classes at JB/WN/Spirit. I know plenty of highly qualified captains at my carrier who have had apps in for quite a while & have not gotten any calls.
04-21-2016, 05:30 PM
#16
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Position: Captain
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For the record
UAL has 13750 apps on file and the average pilot hired or having a conditional job offer, has around 7745 hrs.
That's per stats as of 4/20/16
Which includes :
Military 30 percent , RJ drivers 60 percent and 10 percent all others
BTW the average in the late 90s was a lot less ( 3500 hrs with 1500 TPIC) as per the same HR person that has been recruiting the past 20 years at TK.
Obviously
thanks to the lost decade or so which made many stuck flying RJs
UAL has 13750 apps on file and the average pilot hired or having a conditional job offer, has around 7745 hrs.
That's per stats as of 4/20/16
Which includes :
Military 30 percent , RJ drivers 60 percent and 10 percent all others
BTW the average in the late 90s was a lot less ( 3500 hrs with 1500 TPIC) as per the same HR person that has been recruiting the past 20 years at TK.
Obviously
thanks to the lost decade or so which made many stuck flying RJs
04-21-2016, 07:59 PM
#17
Don't say Guppy
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Position: Guppy driver
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
For the record
UAL has 13750 apps on file and the average pilot hired or having a conditional job offer, has around 7745 hrs.
That's per stats as of 4/20/16
Which includes :
Military 30 percent , RJ drivers 60 percent and 10 percent all others
BTW the average in the late 90s was a lot less ( 3500 hrs with 1500 TPIC) as per the same HR person that has been recruiting the past 20 years at TK.
Obviously
thanks to the lost decade or so which made many stuck flying RJs
UAL has 13750 apps on file and the average pilot hired or having a conditional job offer, has around 7745 hrs.
That's per stats as of 4/20/16
Which includes :
Military 30 percent , RJ drivers 60 percent and 10 percent all others
BTW the average in the late 90s was a lot less ( 3500 hrs with 1500 TPIC) as per the same HR person that has been recruiting the past 20 years at TK.
Obviously
thanks to the lost decade or so which made many stuck flying RJs
I think now there are much fewer mil guys, and a lot of the RJ guys have a bunch of hours.
I have never heard of any blacklisting of expats. To get the expat gig, you had to have a lot of prior experience as well.
04-27-2016, 11:12 AM
#18
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,580
Definitely not blacklisted out of the Middle East. I know some guys who went to UAL; some went to SWA, myself included.
My recommendation to get noticed... have someone look over your application. A number of interview prep agencies offer this service... definitely worth it.
My recommendation to get noticed... have someone look over your application. A number of interview prep agencies offer this service... definitely worth it.
04-28-2016, 04:47 PM
#19
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 859
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Definitely not blacklisted out of the Middle East. I know some guys who went to UAL; some went to SWA, myself included.
My recommendation to get noticed... have someone look over your application. A number of interview prep agencies offer this service... definitely worth it.
My recommendation to get noticed... have someone look over your application. A number of interview prep agencies offer this service... definitely worth it.
There are thousands of qualified guys. One wrong date can kick your app out of the stack. Make a $100 phone call to a pro to get you on the right path.
09-08-2016, 04:34 AM
#20
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: B737 /FO
Posts: 345
I am an expat and have had an interview inquiry from SunCountry. Could not make the interview due to workload here and logistics.
The biggest issue with coming back is logistics of travel and lining up leave with the interview dates or job fairs. Its tough.
The biggest issue with coming back is logistics of travel and lining up leave with the interview dates or job fairs. Its tough.
