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captjns 08-13-2016 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by The Dominican (Post 2179353)
OMG! From everywhere......! Just about every expat pilot gig is like that....., and that makes it very interesting actually, I've been very fortunate to fly with pilots from very diverse backgrounds and I have learned a lot from many of them...., hopefully I've taught them something along the way as well...!:D

Agreed. Not withstanding pay and QOL, one of my considerations for accepting a contract is the cultural experience the location offers. Usually half the pilot group are citizens where the airline was located. The other pilots, of course, were from all corners of the globe. Met a bunch of great guys and gals along the way. SOme of which I'm still in contact with from as far back as my first contract from 1992. I guess I have to say all the contracts were great... some greater than others though.

I will say contracts in the earlier years was a crap shoot. No internet to gather information other than word of mouth from pilots I met along the way. There were fewer agencies out there too... more reputable too. Some agencies today do not come to the defense of their clients allowing airlines to violate the basic concept QOL and or pay. With the Internet, in addition to word of mouth the potential expat can now be an "educated consumer" before signing on the dotted line.

Still the best 25 years of my flying, and wouldn't trade if for, no pun intended, the world.

HercDriver130 08-16-2016 05:31 PM

Emirates is digging deep... emailing people who haven't had contact with them in 5+ years asking if they might know anyone interested in Emirates.... lord

captjns 08-17-2016 01:50 AM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 2181878)
Emirates is digging deep... emailing people who haven't had contact with them in 5+ years asking if they might know anyone interested in Emirates.... lord

Yeah... It's nice to give them the old TBNT letter and wish them well in their future endeavors. After their third sales attempt a few weeks back, I enquired what part of TBNT did they not understand.

ULLI 08-17-2016 01:21 PM

I got the same email. If they would just open multiple bases (like CX) and offer higher pay with respectable schedules the place would be full of resumes.

Apokleros 08-17-2016 04:28 PM

Will it make me more competitive for a U.S. major or ACMI if I go to Emirates for a year or two? Stats: single, 30 years old, ATP with 2000 hours TT and 1000 hours turbojet, four jet type ratings and airline experience....

EDIT: Yes, I have read the thread, and I am not liking what I am hearing. Just considering all options.

Proximity 08-17-2016 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Apokleros (Post 2182587)
Will it make me more competitive for a U.S. major or ACMI if I go to Emirates for a year or two?

Might, but EK has a five year bond.

GogglesPisano 08-17-2016 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Apokleros (Post 2182587)
Will it make me more competitive for a U.S. major or ACMI if I go to Emirates for a year or two?

Why on earth would you need to go overseas and fly a heavy to be qualified to fly for an ACMI? It's not that hard.

SEPfield 08-17-2016 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Apokleros (Post 2182587)
Will it make me more competitive for a U.S. major or ACMI if I go to Emirates for a year or two? Stats: single, 30 years old, ATP with 2000 hours TT and 1000 hours turbojet, four jet type ratings and airline experience....

EDIT: Yes, I have read the thread, and I am not liking what I am hearing. Just considering all options.

Not from my experience. I spent 3.5 years at EK and came back to a regional. Many others have done the same.

6000 TT
270 Jet PIC
2300 777
3000 CRJ-900
Prior enlisted military

Still haven't heard a word from AA, UAL, DL or even Atlas or JetBlue.

The only experience you will gain at EK is how to live completely fatigued. It honestly took me a full month after returning to feel completely normal again.

Also as others have mentioned:

5 year, $42,000 training bond
EK requires 90 days notice for resignation
Will be very difficult to attend an interview with only 9-10 days off per month and minimum 13hr flight to the US.

Saw my friends roster for August. 101hrs scheduled block!

Think long and hard before joining EK

Apokleros 08-17-2016 05:31 PM

That sounds utterly vomit-inducing....

Otterbox 08-17-2016 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Apokleros (Post 2182587)
Will it make me more competitive for a U.S. major or ACMI if I go to Emirates for a year or two? Stats: single, 30 years old, ATP with 2000 hours TT and 1000 hours turbojet, four jet type ratings and airline experience....

EDIT: Yes, I have read the thread, and I am not liking what I am hearing. Just considering all options.

I was talking to two EK 777 CAs at a beach resort in Dubai a couple years ago... One was a furlough AA pilot and one was TCN, They waived me off from EK. They recommended staying in the states to benefit from the airline hiring wave coming up, and the fact that you'll benefit from U.S. Employment laws and union protection (they constantly looked over their shoulders the entire discussion and acknlowedged they could be fired for "bad mouthing the company" by having a frank discussion about its pitfalls)...

As much as I enjoy my visits to Dubai, it is a police state... Not some place I want to live my life.

skypine27 08-17-2016 07:27 PM

You two guys on this page who say you aren't getting any calls from US Majors you didn't mention if you have a 4 year degree.

As far as I know, no us major is waiving that requirement yet.

SEPfield 08-17-2016 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by skypine27 (Post 2182721)
You two guys on this page who say you aren't getting any calls from US Majors you didn't mention if you have a 4 year degree.

As far as I know, no us major is waiving that requirement yet.

Yes. 4 year degree with 3.3 GPA

HPIC 08-17-2016 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by Apokleros (Post 2182587)
Will it make me more competitive for a U.S. major or ACMI if I go to Emirates for a year or two? Stats: single, 30 years old, ATP with 2000 hours TT and 1000 hours turbojet, four jet type ratings and airline experience....

EDIT: Yes, I have read the thread, and I am not liking what I am hearing. Just considering all options.

You would definitely have A LOT of fun with the FA's there, but overall it would be a very negative experience I believe. As others have stated, there is a long bond term there.

A friend of mine worked there around 9 or 10 years ago. He left with less than a 90 day notice due to a family emergency. He left about 60-70 days after he notified them of the situation(but before the separation date he gave them due to the critical medical nature of an immediate family member), and received no resistance from Emirates. Fast forward 6-7 years later...he flew into DXB as a crew member. He was then told by UAE Customs that he would not be allowed to leave UAE until he sorted out his issue with EK, and they confiscated his passport. He contacted EK, they told him since he left with less than 90 days notice, he had to pay them back his last 3 months pay(the last 3 months that he worked, 30 days before he gave his notice and 60 days after) AND the cost for his housing, etc for that time. He was held hostage in UAE until paid. He ended up paying close to $50k before he was allowed to leave UAE.

This was several years ago before they were as desperate as they are. They will not treat you as a human being, simply as a piece of property. If that sounds good to you, go ahead and apply to EK.

NEDude 08-19-2016 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 2182780)
You would definitely have A LOT of fun with the FA's there, but overall it would be a very negative experience I believe. As others have stated, there is a long bond term there.

A friend of mine worked there around 9 or 10 years ago. He left with less than a 90 day notice due to a family emergency. He left about 60-70 days after he notified them of the situation(but before the separation date he gave them due to the critical medical nature of an immediate family member), and received no resistance from Emirates. Fast forward 6-7 years later...he flew into DXB as a crew member. He was then told by UAE Customs that he would not be allowed to leave UAE until he sorted out his issue with EK, and they confiscated his passport. He contacted EK, they told him since he left with less than 90 days notice, he had to pay them back his last 3 months pay(the last 3 months that he worked, 30 days before he gave his notice and 60 days after) AND the cost for his housing, etc for that time. He was held hostage in UAE until paid. He ended up paying close to $50k before he was allowed to leave UAE.

This was several years ago before they were as desperate as they are. They will not treat you as a human being, simply as a piece of property. If that sounds good to you, go ahead and apply to EK.

Yep, sounds like a wonderful place.

aircrewdocae 01-31-2017 02:42 AM

I am looking for some information about how many pilots with foreign licences are flying for Emirates or Dubai based air charter services - basically need to see if I can do FAA / TCC / CASA / CAA NZ medicals for pilots in Abu Dhabi.
Can anyone give me an approx idea ? Or where I can get this information ?

Regards

captjns 01-31-2017 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by aircrewdocae (Post 2291622)
I am looking for some information about how many pilots with foreign licences are flying for Emirates or Dubai based air charter services - basically need to see if I can do FAA / TCC / CASA / CAA NZ medicals for pilots in Abu Dhabi.
Can anyone give me an approx idea ? Or where I can get this information ?

Regards

FAA Medicals... Access the FAA website. Medical... a list of AMEs including those overseas can be accessed

sailingfun 02-04-2017 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by ULLI (Post 2182474)
I got the same email. If they would just open multiple bases (like CX) and offer higher pay with respectable schedules the place would be full of resumes.

If you are not based in Dubai they lose absolute control over you. With you living there since they are tied directly to the government and all that goes with that including passport, legal and visa issues you are their *****!


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