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Old 02-14-2017, 04:24 PM   #161
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How about we just accept the fact that everyone who is at a different airline other than your own is a _______. They are the competition, they are undercutting, they encroaching, they are stealing jobs, etc.
Unless they make more money. Get it?
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There are a number of reasons why mainline outsources to regionals but it's not because RJs being flown at RJ payscales is profitable.
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Gates/slots for one. Do I need to elaborate further? (gawd, I hope not - that was a huge clue)
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Regional airlines are profitable. Regionals make money (a small amount though) otherwise, they wouldn't be in business. Some of the regional flights might cost the mainline carrier more money than the amount of revenue they get, but on a whole, they make money too.

While CRJ with only 20 passengers that paid $200 for a ticket might seem like an unprofitable flight, the regional that operated that flight got paid a fixed amount. Those 20 passengers then boarded United flights which charged them $1,500 to go to Europe. If United didn't subsidise that CRJ flight, those 20 passengers from DCA wouldn't have been flying to Europe on United.

Mainline carriers cover the costs of regional airlines in order to funnel passengers from small cities that cannot support mainline aircraft, to larger airports that can. While the individual flights may be unprofitable, the total journey for each passenger is profitable (most of the time).
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So why is it I only hear of the outrage against Norwegian from this side of the pond's airlines vs the legacy European airlines? One would think that BA, Air France, Iberia, etc would be upset to see them ****ing in their sand box as well. Yet I haven't read or heard a peep from that side. Does this not strike anyone as bizarre?

A further question, does Norwegian Air Shuttle have the same "negative" impact on trans Atlantic flights as NAI? I don't believe they are a FoC violator, but curious if their business model is equally as damaging as NAI. I literally can't keep up with the amount of garbage airlines the Norwegian is putting out.
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Because the European legacies got used to that by putting up with the likes of Ryanair and other european lcc's.
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Because the European legacies got used to that by putting up with the likes of Ryanair and other european lcc's.
What do you mean putting up with the likes of FR and others? Are you that naive to think that FR exists to this day because of the benevolence of Euro carriers?
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Old 02-16-2017, 01:04 PM   #168
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Management has pretty much taken hiring out of pilot hands. Unless the guy sitting across the table is on board with this. It really makes no difference. They are going to get hired.
Now harassment is a total other deal. Some people can put up with silent cockpits, clackers and the occasional load of rocks dumped on their front yard. They still will have 787 time and flying a 737 at United by 30 years old.

Pound sand it seems we will all be doing!
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