NEDude

More places for you all to picket.

METO Guido

Axe to grind, compensating for something or false flag ploy to steer the discussion. Hoping the later.

intrepidcv11

Becoming increasingly clear you are bitter that no US Major called you.

NEDude

Yes, living in Europe, I am very bitter about that...

Oh...and VX is a major.

Try again.

WHACKMASTER

Bingo. Obviously bitter about something and now crossing into troll-dom. So transparent

NEDude

I have stated numerous times why I support Norwegian. Either you are deliberately ignorant or you are trying to create a false narrative to deflect from your own blatant hypocrisy for destroying the pay and working conditions of other airlines. So which is it, deliberate ignorance or an attempt to deflect from your hypocrisy?

WHACKMASTER

Go troll somewhere else because this fish ain't biting. Others are obviously catching onto your trolling as well.

NEDude

Seems like you did bite...

Or are these multiple posts your version of "ain't biting"?

intrepidcv11

Oh my bad on the disrespect now that I see you added that you are a check airmen for a vibrant Euro LCC where many try to build a career. In New England terms let's just call you what you are, WICKED HARDO.

NEDude

I know that it may be hard for you to comprehend, but not everyone has the desire to work for a U.S. major. I did work for a U.S. major airline, or have you missed that part too?

But it is clear by the fact that you all have resorted to personal attacks that you cannot argue the fact that ALPA has lied to you about Norwegian, and you have gotten all worked up about the false facts, and have no way to dispute them.

Here is a summary of ALPA claims:

Norwegian Air International has Thai based flight crews:False - All Thai based pilots are employed by Norwegian Air Shuttle (NAS), the Norwegian AOC, not by NAI.

Norwegian Air International was set up in Ireland to allow Thai based flight crews to get around Norwegian labour laws: False - The Thai basing is done on the Norwegian AOC and in accordance with Norwegian labour law, NAI was not required to set up the Thai basing.

Norwegian Air International hires pilots through an agency based in Singapore: False - Norwegian hires pilots through either OSM, an agency based in Norway, or through Global Crew UK, an agency based in the UK.

Norwegian pays its pilots well under market value: False - Norwegian pays similarly or better than many other European LCCs and European charter companies. As an example, Norwegian pays wide body pilots significantly more than Eurowings (a Lufthansa alter-ego company...) which has U.S. DOT approval.

NAI specifically is using provisions of the EU-US Open Skies treaty to get around established labour laws: False - First of all NAI is not established using provisions of the EU-US Open Skies treaty, it is established using internal EU/EEA treaties, something which the U.S. has zero say over. Secondly NAI is certified in Ireland and in accordance with Irish labour laws. Ireland is an established EU country and is party to the Open Skies treaty. Therefore NAI is completely covered and legal under the Open Skies treaty, something even the U.S. authorities and the lead U.S. negotiator for the Open Skies treaty have agreed upon.

Lastly - I have stated it many times before, but it bears repeating: The more healthy and growing airlines, the better the job outlook is for pilots. The expansion of Norwegian has put upward overall pressure on salaries and working conditions around Europe. Their existence has caused an increase in my pay and working conditions, and they have done the same for the airline my wife works for. I want more jobs for pilots at healthy and growing airlines, not less. And that is why I am supportive of Norwegian.

Now, as none of you have come up with an argument against those points, I fully expect more attempts at personal attacks. But you will just be proving my point.