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Old 04-28-2017, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW22 View Post
Just order lunch and dinners and be happy!

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Believe me, I know! But when you get a 4am start, you gotta do what you gotta do.

I didn't deviate that one. I figured the poor bastard got up at 2am to make me eggs and drive them out here, and got them to me on time. What's a little missing tortilla among friends.
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Old 04-28-2017, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy View Post
How do you guys define a "slave ship?" How does that translate in terms of typical sectors per day, min rest, etc.?
More legs, longer legs, and because it's bigger it can recover for smaller airplanes that break. It's going to be the workhorse because it's got the payload, range, and short-field ability to do just about every domestic non-FA trip we have, other than long transcons or Hawaii. Workload is similar to the Excel (which was also a slave ship), but I don't feel so whipped at the end of the day, probably because I can stretch out and move around more.

It's going to be a hot seller, I'm sure of it. It's everything great about the Sovereign, but dramatically more spacious and comfortable inside (for passengers and crew), and for less money.

Does the Latitude offer more room up front?
Yes, very much so. The cockpit is super comfortable (I can't touch the pedals if I roll the seat all the way back), the ACM blows the coldest, driest air I've ever felt in an airplane on the ground, and the pressurization keeps the cabin below 6000 feet, even at FL450. That helps the fatigue level more than I thought it would.

I flew the Excel for many years, so I know that smaller tube all too well. The Latitude is the first bigger tube that Cessna has ever put on a jet, and it's a big improvement.
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Old 05-07-2017, 06:44 PM
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The Latitude is a slave ship, yes. Unbreakable? Not even a little bit. It's still a Cessna, after all. Now that Challenger 350, on the other hand...
Yes, that 350....been in it a year and a half now, grand total of 2 AOGs. NetJets found a winner in this plane. Its a wonderful airplane and I like it even better than the Gulfstream, BUT...its defines slave ship perfectly.
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW22 View Post
And then...

He aged horribly with night flying and trips to China and left them all 10 years too early.

Always a catch.

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Quite a bit of all night stuff at the big 3. Long haul still goes senior though. A lot of choices though.
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by QuagmireGiggity View Post
Quite a bit of all night stuff at the big 3. Long haul still goes senior though. A lot of choices though.
Don't get it twisted, plenty of night stuff at NetJets too. I flew until 530am a few times. It happens.
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:36 PM
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These choices are always fun to talk about but are of course very personal that only you can answer.
I think age, where you live and family will be the biggest factors.

Don't discount AA. Year 3 a person can make in the $150-60K range doing the minimal amount of flying. ..Plus 16% into your 401k. For a Captain making $260000 thats $41,600 the company puts in for you. A person starting today will be able to upgrade in about 6 years. Or you could just go Group IV FO and ride the gravy train. I met a guy with 5000 hours in the 777 and only has 65 landings. Or you could stay senior Narrowbody FO and be home every night. To each his own.
If you're young the pay difference will be multi millions.
Reserve is actually a tolerable life. Long call is great. Short call for some that live in base is great. When I was at a regional reserve was a huge PITA.

If you have small kids and want holidays.. that could be an issue. It all depends on how bad you want the holiday. I can get Turkey day year two but summer vacations forget it.
More improvements are coming such as bigger profit sharing, Min Calendar day like DAL n UAL. Contract is up Jan 1 2020. I expect major change. The only thing that will dirk it up is the old fogies get googly eyed for cash.

Also I will say I have yet to fly with a bad Captain. A couple were not that fun but over all great place. Training is unbelievable compared to what I had at the ole regional . A real gentlemans program. There's a saying: "cooperate-graduate". Can't imagine anyone with a decent attitude having problems.
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Old 05-21-2017, 07:14 AM
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Don't get it twisted, plenty of night stuff at NetJets too. I flew until 530am a few times. It happens.
I like night flying : )
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I like night flying : )
I don't like messing with circadian cycles but I don't mind flying when it's dark.
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I like night flying : )
We tried to knock off work by late afternoon, suspecting that the atmosphere was tired of holding up airplanes all day, and might start dropping them.
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Old 05-22-2017, 05:54 AM
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I get missing all the secondary perks of the job (hotel points, airline points etc) but if you added all that up, that equals about 2,000 bucks a year.... That shouldn't be a reason to make a go or no go decision.
Exactly...yet some simply can't give up their "status"!
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