Leave Netjets?
06-28-2017, 06:58 PM
#261
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Originally Posted by Jetlife
Not to start another war but to be fair, NetJets is in its own industry. There's nothing to mirror, it doesn't mirror 121, hell it doesn't mirror other 135s...
06-29-2017, 04:06 AM
#262
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Originally Posted by Nachomamma
From a 'you'll die if you're too old to execute a single engine missed approach near terrain because you're slow and incompetent' standpoint, it's exactly the same. Again, this was shown to be the case during the Exxon trial(s).
06-29-2017, 06:28 AM
#265
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Position: NJA CE680 terminated
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Nacho, you are really a piece of work. What about the marginal younger guys (and don't tell me there aren't any)? You are a one trick pony. And the term marginal is overly kind in some cases.
06-29-2017, 08:08 AM
#266
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Originally Posted by jetlag7
Still not so clear for FO's either...
If SW continues to pay profit-sharing at present-day values indefinitely, If the FO has less than 11 years seniority at NJ, and If the FO is under the age of 44, then "Yes" it is an easy decision. (strictly from a "career-earnings" point of view)
Any variation of those three variables changes the math enough to where it's not so cut and dry....
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If SW continues to pay profit-sharing at present-day values indefinitely, If the FO has less than 11 years seniority at NJ, and If the FO is under the age of 44, then "Yes" it is an easy decision. (strictly from a "career-earnings" point of view)
Any variation of those three variables changes the math enough to where it's not so cut and dry....
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Last edited by Finny McCool; 06-29-2017 at 08:45 AM.
06-29-2017, 08:44 AM
#267
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Originally Posted by Nachomamma
Stand by for the biggest variable of all...a mandatory 65 age cap is finally coming to NJ. Very long overdue.
06-29-2017, 09:30 AM
#268
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Originally Posted by Sailaway
Nacho, you are really a piece of work. What about the marginal younger guys (and don't tell me there aren't any)? You are a one trick pony. And the term marginal is overly kind in some cases.
I don't care. You're not good at this anymore. You're incompetent, dangerous, and no longer needed. You're not pulling your weight any more. Get out. Go crawl into a retirement home and watch Matlock with the other gummers - and take your hurt feelings and ****y attitude with you. You will not be missed.
06-29-2017, 09:33 AM
#269
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Originally Posted by Finny McCool
Not trying to talk anyone into anything, and there are certainly many factors involved in making a personal decision, but the above is completely false. A maxed out small cabin NJA Captain in their early fifties will make considerably more over their career moving to SWA even if they never upgrade. I think there is a lot of confusion about how we're paid. Yes, you have to work it, but the opportunity to make a lot of money for those who do is really there.
I even assumed a SWA upgrade after 10 years (55 year old in this case).
06-29-2017, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Finny McCool
Not trying to talk anyone into anything, and there are certainly many factors involved in making a personal decision, but the above is completely false. A maxed out small cabin NJA Captain in their early fifties will make considerably more over their career moving to SWA even if they never upgrade. I think there is a lot of confusion about how we're paid. Yes, you have to work it, but the opportunity to make a lot of money for those who do is really there.
I've crunched the numbers several different ways and can't get anywhere close to what you're suggesting.
I used to live in Dallas and have a large number of friends at SW who provided a sizeable amount of earnings data for me.
I thought I had a pretty good understanding of the way things work over there, but if you can show me some alternate math, I'm all ears.
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